Did you ever stop to think that if it were really as clear as you say it is, we would be hearing this from the troops themselves? They understand what's going on. We're fighting an ideology that transcend geo-political boundaries. It can not be contained by conventional mechanisms, and it can not be defended against with conventional mechanisms.Their ideology is not worn as a uniform so they can walk amongst us. They do not fight their way in; they destroy from the inside out. The one point that you, Ron Paul, and everyone else who share your view fail to realize is that they have already declared war on us, and your failure to realize this, or give it credibility, is because you don't understand the nature of the enemy. Because you can't correlate it with a uniform or country, you simply dismiss it as unimportant.
Just as they fight from within, so must we, and it *is* in defense of the security of this Nation, and I think that your suggestion that it isn't, borders on dishonoring our men and women in uniform.
This is about our foreign policy as it applies to the constitution.
This is not about ideology. Who are we to dictate THEIR ideology anyhow.
We went there with a purpose “supposedly” to disarm the regime, free the people from tyranny and enforce the U.N. resolutions (which I still can't figure out our relationship with the U.N. and why it's pertinent to our country.)
I believe this may have been our purpose, but secretly there is yet another agenda. This is why we are still there.
It is up to the Iraqis and or the Afghans to rise up and take back their own freedom.
Is it our fault they may be a weak people?
Look at the South Vietnamese for instance. We had the same issues getting these guys to muster up the umph to fight for their own freedom.
Think of it this way. The U.N. perceived Texans as oppressing the poor immigrant population from Mexico.
We here in Texas feel that we have been invaded illegally and all attempts to get them to go home peacefully have failed.
So, We Texans begin rounding up these illegals and forcibly return them to their home across the border and then average citizens take up arms to guard the border.
Well the U.N. passes a resolution condemning such actions and votes to send a force into Texas to stop forced deportations.
One thing leads to another, lots of violence and now we find 40 thousand blue helmets on our soil.
They've effectively halted all forced deportations, disarmed the citizens of Texas and are in dialog with Rick Perry to change our ideology so we can incorporate millions of illegals on to this land which was once there's.
Now, Ideology? Foreign troops? Policy influenced by entities other than our own?
My point is, unless a foreign state directly threatens the security of our nation (and I'm not talking about cave dwellers), we should not intervene.
If we do see a threat, deal with it with overwhelming force....then get out.
Playing beat cop, civilization re-builder and meals on wheels is just an expensive proposition and is not the mission of our fighting force.
Give all that over to the U.N., there just dying to gain relevance.
Agree or not, we are broke as a nation!!! As much as we'd like to just keep on doing what we do, sending billions around the world to change folks opinions and ideologies, we can't afford it.
All this spending around the world is ultimately going to rest on my shoulders and yours and your kids and kids kids.
Currently, total national debt is approx. 11 TRILLION dollars. We are so damn in debt, foreign countries are afraid to buy our debt any longer.
If that's not an eye opener, I don't know what is.
Talk of dumping the dollar for a new world reserve currency...does this not spook you guys?
What about your investments, what about our standard of living as Americans?
We should return to dealing with the world on a strict constitutional basis. If you threaten us, we will put you down, otherwise play nice, trade nice.
There are meds that can help with your paranoia.