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Radiometric Dating: Back to Basics (does it really prove the Earth is millions of years old?)
Answers Magazine ^ | June 17, 2009 | Andrew A. Snelling, Ph.D.

Posted on 06/18/2009 8:48:47 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: tacticalogic

According to your post, TT is defined from TAI in terms of the SI second and therefore goes back to editor-surveyor’s post #27.


561 posted on 06/22/2009 1:31:30 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
According to your post, TT is defined from TAI in terms of the SI second and therefore goes back to editor-surveyor’s post #27.

It also says that they are directly related in a fixed relationship. You can't change one independently of the other.

"TT is related to International Atomic Time (TAI) through the definition that TAI corresponds to 1.0003725 TT. This means that TT runs permanently 32.184 seconds ahead of TAI, but behind UTC"

Anything that varies in one time reference has to vary proportionally in the other.

562 posted on 06/22/2009 1:45:09 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"It also says that they are directly related in a fixed relationship. You can't change one independently of the other."

Yep, that's a relationship that's true by definition and goes back to editor-surveyor's post #27.

"TT is related to International Atomic Time (TAI) through the definition that TAI corresponds to 1.0003725 TT. This means that TT runs permanently 32.184 seconds ahead of TAI, but behind UTC"

"Anything that varies in one time reference has to vary proportionally in the other."

Here's the part you cut out: "...which moves further ahead of TT each time a leap second is introduced."

563 posted on 06/22/2009 1:52:15 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
Here's the part you cut out: "...which moves further ahead of TT each time a leap second is introduced."

Okay. I'm not sure why that's significant, but how does that explain how you can end up with nuclear decay being variable in one time reference but constant in the other when the time references are not variable with respect to each other?

564 posted on 06/22/2009 2:13:33 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"Okay. I'm not sure why that's significant, but how does that explain how you can end up with nuclear decay being variable in one time reference but constant in the other when the time references are not variable with respect to each other?"

Because TT, TAI and the SI second are all defined in terms of atomic time. They are not variable with respect to each other but are fixed 'by definition'.

That was the point of editor-surveyor's post #27.

565 posted on 06/22/2009 2:27:32 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

So there is no “dynamic time” standard for “terrestrial day”.


566 posted on 06/22/2009 2:37:45 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"So there is no “dynamic time” standard for “terrestrial day”."

It was your claim that 'terrestrial day' was a physical constant, not mine. As we learned from your own posts, it is a 'defined constant' in terms of atomic time only. It is not a physical constant in physical terms (dynamic time), it is variable.

This is why it was not ambiguous of me to ask you for specifics.

567 posted on 06/22/2009 2:59:17 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

Are any of the time reference terms (year, half-live, Yom) involved in this debate defined anywhere in terms of “dynamic time”, or other than the same “atomic time” that nuclear decay rates are measured in?


568 posted on 06/22/2009 3:07:53 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"Are any of the time reference terms (year, half-live, Yom) involved in this debate defined anywhere in terms of “dynamic time”, or other than the same “atomic time” that nuclear decay rates are measured in?"

AFAIK, they are all defined in atomic terms, which is the point of editor-surveyor's post #27.

569 posted on 06/22/2009 3:34:44 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
AFAIK, they are all defined in atomic terms, which is the point of editor-surveyor's post #27.

Okay. If all the terms are defined in atomic time, what was the point of the post with regard to the issues at hand?

570 posted on 06/22/2009 3:56:06 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"Okay. If all the terms are defined in atomic time, what was the point of the post with regard to the issues at hand?"

I don't think you had one.

571 posted on 06/23/2009 5:28:44 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
I don't think you had one.

More likely you just didn't think.

572 posted on 06/23/2009 9:30:44 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"More likely you just didn't think."

More likely, you had no point as none has been presented.

573 posted on 06/23/2009 11:58:21 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
More likely, you had no point as none has been presented.

None you'll acknowldge.

574 posted on 06/23/2009 12:06:46 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Would you like for me to break it down for you, or would you prefer another set of quotes from several noted physicists who say pretty much what I've said, in reference to the above?

I remember you silly arguments and having to invent fictitional forces to make your argument. Your fictitional forces are NOT in the Einstein equations. You can post all you want.

575 posted on 11/13/2009 4:25:50 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater
having to invent fictitional forces

Oh, we certainly wouldn't want to go and do something like that, lol.

What is the scientific evidence for dark matter, by the way, ColdWater?

576 posted on 11/13/2009 4:46:13 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

“A study done in 2005 by Dr. Jon D. Miller of Northwestern University, an expert in the public understanding of science and technology,[13] found that one adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth.[14]”

I didn’t realize till now how large your group is!


577 posted on 11/13/2009 5:20:24 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: RegulatorCountry

400 years of advancing science has indisputably disproved the geocentric view and proved the heliocentric, or sun-centered view. Which goes to show that it is entirely possible to be surrounded by beliefs and views which are-—however popular and/or long they’ve been around-—completely false.

http://www.manitounaturalhistory.com/dean/den/Den4.html


578 posted on 11/13/2009 5:45:16 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: RegulatorCountry

More from the last:

For instance, if we still subscribed to the old geocentric, or earth-centered view of the universe, we could not get to the moon or other planets, no matter how powerful our rockets...because the mathmatics, as developed under the geocentric view, would not be accurate enough to accomplish the task. It would be akin to asking a marksman to hit a mile-away bullseye with a misaligned gun sight...and where each shot knocked the sight again out of alignment such that there could never be enough adjustment to get it right.


579 posted on 11/13/2009 5:53:13 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: RegulatorCountry
Remember this infamous quote of yours?

"Newton proved Kepler’s equations, what on earth are you talking about?"

Johannes Kepler (1571-1630), was one of the best early astronomers and a very capable mathematician. Kepler stated that he built his astronomy from 'the hypotheses of Copernicus, the observations of Tycho Brahe and the magnetical science of William Gilbert'.

His published works, in Latin, included his 1596 'Precursor of Cosmographic Dissertations', his 1609 'New Aetiological Astronomy', his 1611 'Dioptrics', his 1619 'The Harmonies of the World' and his 1618-21 'Epitome of Copernican Astronomy'. His 1627 'Rudolphine Tables' allowed the positions of planets to be computed and gave some important predictions, making Kepler the foremost astronomer of his time. His optics work was also useful.

However, here we consider Kepler's theory for explaining his astronomy - a weak theory entirely disproved by Newton.

http://www.new-science-theory.com/johannes-kepler.html

580 posted on 11/13/2009 6:06:47 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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