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To: BunnySlippers

This has too much momentum. They won’t just replace nutjob with Musavi. Khamenei will fall and I think if not total regime change, at least the “velayat faqih” the supreme rule of a cleric, a concept by khomeini which has no traditional legitimation in Shia islam, will be rendered powerless or extremely weakened.


79 posted on 06/18/2009 10:56:05 AM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: SolidWood

Yours is an ideal outcome. I pray you are right.


84 posted on 06/18/2009 1:17:21 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: SolidWood; Ernest_at_the_Beach
From your #79: "...a concept by khomeini which has no traditional legitimation in Shia islam, will be rendered powerless or extremely weakened."
Of course I understand you realize they will have to literally rewrite portions of their constitution to have this take effect. Various articles outline the chain of command as well as how decisions, say elections are judged, or say at what point the President is allowed to direct civil functions as well as military, eg. he is subject to approval of the Supreme Leader.
We all would agree they have one hell of a mess on their hands regardless of the outcome. They outdid themselves this time around. The day of reckoning is upon them.
As for some comments in this thread and others regarding the growing fissure between the Supreme Leader and his fellow Mullahs. That is nothing new. But I must admit I am a bit surprised of lately as how a few (and perhaps a lot of of the upper clergy not mentioned) have allowed their opposing views to become publicized so readily.
Maybe the clergy is really starting to come apart in a significant way.
I wonder how soon we shall read about some defecting to Iraq to be protected under Sistani's roof.
What should have world leaders worried is the huge number of hard liner IRGC so entrenched. They have much to lose if things go caput. I could draw I believe reasonable parallels with the Saddamist. No place to go after the fact.
Will we see a similar thing happen in Iran if the biggies go bonzai. Sure Iran is dominated by the Shia, so one could rebut that there would not be a reason for a insurgency to crop up. I do not propose it in the same light as the Sunni verse Shia in Iraq. But a scenario where the IRGC simply refuse to give up their privileged positions and life styles etc..
That is where the Iranian regular military branches would be obliged to step in. Things could get extremely messy. Things could happen as George, Dick and others have hoped would come about. And I for one hope to see happen if blood shed must be a part of the final equation. God have mercy on the innocent people at large who only want peace and prosperity in their land and a hope their government has their needs at heart.
Since I have yapped long enough. Might as throw in one more.
Iran's Abul Aziz al-Hakim, partial founder of the Council for the Islamic Revolution (SCIRI), and the Grand Ayatollah Sistani had the wisdom to stay on the side lines where ever possible. They followed the rules for the most part. Though we can take some exceptions to Hakim's over all performance in the south for the first few years. Any way. Just wanted to suggest your comments should not be taken lightly as to how Iran's clergy made some very bad decisions way back when that now will haunt them. Khameni and Khomeini in essence screwed the pouch.
93 posted on 06/18/2009 6:25:03 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Obama must be making huge piles of cigarette butts around the WH grounds at this point.)
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