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EMT Who Fought With Oklahoma Trooper Wants Officer to Lose Badge
AP (via FOX News) ^ | June 16, 2009

Posted on 06/16/2009 1:10:08 PM PDT by Eddings

OKLAHOMA CITY — The paramedic who scuffled with an Oklahoma highway police officer while a patient waited inside the ambulance says the trooper should lose his badge.

Maurice White Jr. said Tuesday on the CBS "Early Show" that trooper Daniel Martin was in a state of rage when he stopped his ambulance and totally disregarded the patient's safety.

Martin stopped the ambulance May 24 for failing to yield.

White says he got out of the ambulance to tell the trooper they were taking a patient to the hospital. The argument quickly escalated into a scuffle and Martin put White in a choke hold.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: cop; donutwatch; emt; leo
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Checking the whole scene proves the officer did the right thing.

That may well be the single dumbest thing I've ever seen posted on FR.

But police rarely get favorable attention from the media.

Because they rarely deserve it.

And this officer is on leave because his family is being threatened by brave liberals (no doubt) and he wants to be at home to provide protection.

ROFL. If his family had any sense they'd be more scared of this lunatic than any indignant "liberal."
61 posted on 06/16/2009 1:57:39 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: SunTzuWu
EMT White showed remarkable restraint and was very polite.

Congrats on watching the video...Indeed that's what 99% of us are seeing. (The last 1% just like to be wrong and pig headed)

62 posted on 06/16/2009 1:57:41 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

You need to click on the link in post #36. I did and it changed my mind.


63 posted on 06/16/2009 1:58:13 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: muawiyah

Indeed. Have you read White’s statement? Excerpt:

“The officer then approached me while shouting “you are under arrest for obstructing a police officer”.
When he grabbed my right arm I asked him if he was aware that he was committing a felony by
assaulting a Paramedic in the line of duty. He seemed to become even more enraged and attempted to
maneuver my right arm behind my back in order to hand cuff me. The fact that he could not
accomplish this seemed to enrage him even more.”


64 posted on 06/16/2009 1:58:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: fatima
Anger management class.Give him another chance.

F**k him. I see cops speeding and driving wrecklessly all the time without lights or sirens going.
65 posted on 06/16/2009 1:58:41 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: gridlock
When you start arresting the attending physician, the general grade officer in the back seat, the President of the United States, or any other person with authority over the vehicle ~ e.g. an EMT tending a patient, you commit a felony the second you touch them.

You put your career at serious risk by IGNORING THEM.

This is all covered in your training as an LEO. Unless, of course, you went to sleep on that part.

66 posted on 06/16/2009 1:58:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Oh I see... So you think it is okay to pullover an ambulance with a patient in route to the hospital and under color of law? Physically attacking another human who is helping another human with a medical condition?

The choke hold was longer than a frames and I have some doubt that you have seen both videos.

Of course if you woke up looking for an argument....

Actually, now that I have looked through your posts I guess that is just the way you are.

BTW, everyone on this board has a lot of respect for Peace Officers including me as a former Sheriff Explorer.

This guy needs to find a new vocation and eat jello to ease that burning in his stomach.


67 posted on 06/16/2009 2:00:33 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: muawiyah

And a really critical excerpt from White’s statement:

“Note: One last very disturbing Fact. After we had arrived at Prague hospital, officer 606 told my
partner, Paul Franks that he had determined in his mind to escalate to pulling has service revolver and
using deadly force. Again, this was all due to the mistaken idea that he (606) he had been “flipped off”.”

Under the circumstances, I’m quite confident that the trooper actually said this. I really hope somebody else overheard it.


68 posted on 06/16/2009 2:01:09 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Drango

EMT White’s mistake was that he got out of the ambulance. If you get out of the vehicle on a traffic stop without the officer’s permission, you are in a whole heap of trouble. If the officer is real nice, he’ll ask you to get back into the vehicle. If the officer is not, he’ll arrest you on the spot.


69 posted on 06/16/2009 2:01:47 PM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I am an EMT and have often driven an ambulance. I am shocked at this.


70 posted on 06/16/2009 2:01:58 PM PDT by tioga
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To: gridlock
I don’t care who you are... If you get out of your vehicle on a traffic stop and get in the officer’s face, you’re going to jail.

Yup. Welcome to the police state. You have no rights. You are at the mercy of the police. The police can do no wrong and rarely, if ever, suffer consequences for illegal acts.

And the police wonder why the public is uncooperative.
71 posted on 06/16/2009 2:02:03 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: SunTzuWu

72 posted on 06/16/2009 2:02:43 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: gridlock
He tried to get the manager, who had nothing to do with the issue at hand,

The manager emt was attempting to ascertain why they are being delayed in getting their patient to the hospital. A rational policeman would have allowed them to proceed to the hospital, instead of wanting to win a pissing contest.

The policeman proved he has very bad judgement, and is not the least interested in serving the public.

This can't be dissmissed as a simple traffic stop. From the beginning it made no sense, the video shows that, the officer was never impeded from going down the road, and the ambulance driver did no wrong.

73 posted on 06/16/2009 2:03:28 PM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic (The answer to 1984 is 1776!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Yup. White is a very strong guy. I was actually surprised that this cop didn't pull his pistol and back away carefully.

More than likely the cop thought this was a bunch of black people out joy riding in a tribal ambulance.

74 posted on 06/16/2009 2:03:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SunTzuWu

SunTzuWu:
Your post is unusual. Did you see both videos?

BTW, love the pics. Was that you yesterday? Too funny.


75 posted on 06/16/2009 2:04:30 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: gridlock

NONSENSE.


76 posted on 06/16/2009 2:04:35 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Eddings

Dash Cam Video

.. 8.02 minutes
77 posted on 06/16/2009 2:05:10 PM PDT by deport
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To: gridlock

“arrest anybody he has to to ensure that he maintains control of the scene.”

He never tried to establish the slightest control of the scene. He let people wander all over, inflamed them with foul language, placed everyone at risk in numerous ways, allowed people to climb in and out of the ambulance.

He let his temper run the stop. That is, run the stop that his temper caused him to make. Extremely poor policing in every way. And don’t kid yourself, race was a factor.


78 posted on 06/16/2009 2:05:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: muawiyah
Did you check how strong EMT White was? I want that guy down the street with the Springfield Fire Department.

You may want him for his physical strength, I would like him for his moral strength. He was the supervisor of the rig and immediately put himself between the trooper and the driver, and watching the dashcam video, it's clear that he read the situation correct from the start, the trooper started out by stating he was aiming to cite the driver for failure to yield. Can't say that I've ever worked for a supervisor who was ready and willing to stick their neck out for an underling like that.

79 posted on 06/16/2009 2:05:25 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: bamahead

That was the perfect response, bamahead. The officer was unprofessional and should not carry a badge. He is a danger to himself and everyone else. People with rage issues are not fit to serve. I felt badly for the EMT while I saw the video of this incident. He was treated very poorly and brutally. Yet the EMT responded in a civil manner to all that harsh treatment. I say give the EMT a medal for being a nice guy even when jerks attack.


80 posted on 06/16/2009 2:05:47 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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