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To: ikka

My biggest problem is that Israel is shielding leftist genocidal scum by refusing to deport these commie war criminals. That and the USS Liberty attack makes me question their committment to democracy as I cant imagine England or our other allies doing that.

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17 posted on 06/15/2009 6:42:35 AM PDT by blackminorca
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To: blackminorca
"That and the USS Liberty attack makes me question their committment to democracy as I cant imagine England or our other allies doing that."

Read your history. England earned the nickname "Perfidious Albion". And that was before they and France sold Checkoslovakia and Austria down the river before WWII. Nations have interests, not friends. We have (maybe had?) more interests in common with England than with other countries, and that's been true since WWI, but that doesn't mean that England doesn't continually weigh the costs of keeping the relationship.

Israel is committed to its own existence, which is required before it can worry about democracy. And if they feel they need to do something the US told them not to do, and they don't want the US to interfere, shooting up a spy ship seems a reasonable exercise of sovereignity. I'm not saying we shouldn't be upset about the USS Liberty, but we shouldn't also be asking that our supposed allies submit their life-and-death issues to our election cycles.

The interesting about the current anti-Nazi work in Germany and the Baltic nations, is that it's all targeted against non-Germans and non-Baltics. Germany won't deport Germans accused of being camp guards, but they will demand the extradition of Poles who survived the camps by acting as prison trustee. (That's not the phrase used in the camps, but I think it is the right concept). Shielding folks from corrupt courts is also a reasonable act of sovereignity. And if you shot everybody who fought for the Germans or for the Soviets, you'd have to shoot a whole generation in Eastern Europe.

32 posted on 06/15/2009 10:30:33 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: blackminorca; dennisw

Just to clarify ... I am not saying I agree with the signers of the document, just pointing out what I think “Joe Sixpack” might be thinking about.


35 posted on 06/15/2009 11:59:24 AM PDT by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: blackminorca

I would say you are far from having warm and fuzzy feelings towards the Jewish people based on your prolific newbie posting history. You remind be of someone banded from here who was popular over at the liberty forum.


37 posted on 06/15/2009 12:09:37 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: blackminorca
My biggest problem is that Israel is shielding leftist genocidal scum by refusing to deport these commie war criminals. That and the USS Liberty attack makes me question their committment to democracy as I cant imagine England or our other allies doing that.<

Your reasons for supporting or not supporting Israel are completely irrelevant and suggest a lack of understanding of why evangelicals support Israel.

It has nothing to do with their support or nonsupport of any current policy, and everything do to do with God's promise that He will bless those that bless Israel; and curse those that curse her.

Real evangelicals know and believe this, and their support is based on that promise. It isn't waining either.

39 posted on 06/15/2009 12:52:00 PM PDT by Red Boots
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