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To: RC one
I think the greater point he was making was that American fundamentals and principles would have gradually been usurped by a federal reserve paper money system had America not been victorious in their struggle against the national bank. The point I was making is that this is exactly what has happened.

That is true, but the problem we have today is far more complex. I don't think Adams or any of our wise men could have foreseen that the pirates and slavers of their day would become the rulers and masters of this country today.
We are being attacked on every level of our existence.
Our roots and our heritage are literally being torn out and erased as if they never were. Our property is no longer sacrosanct. The federal government was not supposed to own land, but they stole it out from under our feet. You can tax gold just as easily as you can anything else.
This is not really about money. It is about corrupt, raw, and ruthless power. The banks are only one route.
Control of people through government control of our educational system has turned our childrens' minds to mush.
Unreasonable and restrictive interstate commerce laws have usurped states' rights. The government does not allow for barter and trade anymore.
Unbridled police powers and corrupt courts make it impossible to do justice.
Government tells us where to live and how.
Religious freedom is under attack in ways we have never seen before. Elimination of our Creator makes the government our god.
And on and on.

58 posted on 06/12/2009 4:47:26 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine

“I don’t think Adams or any of our wise men could have foreseen that the pirates and slavers of their day would become the rulers and masters of this country today.”

On this, we disagree; however, I agree with everything else you wrote. Our country has been usurped but by whom and for why? That seems to be the crux of the disagreement between the left and the right. The why is obviousto me. Money and power. the who is less obvious but I think Jackson called it right even back then, it’s the organized “money power” operating from its “secret conclave”. We have only ourselves to blame. We ignored our forefathers. We should not have.


61 posted on 06/12/2009 7:16:26 AM PDT by RC one
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