Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 06/11/2009 1:29:32 AM PDT by CutePuppy
More and more Democrats are ready to vote against Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s climate change bill, according to a congressional committee chairman who opposes his leader.
The House Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) said Wednesday that he’s at an impasse with the lead sponsor of a climate change bill strongly backed by Pelosi (D-Calif.), and that his list of Democratic members who would join him in voting against the measure is growing rather than shrinking.
“We’re stuck,” Peterson said regarding a clash he’s had with House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) over a number of issues in the bill. “And there’s a lot of issues that haven’t even come up yet.”
The two powerful chairmen are butting heads at the staff level, despite a deadline set by Pelosi for all committee action to be completed by June 19.
But that may be the least of the trouble.
Peterson has warned that the bill put together by Waxman and Energy and Environment subcommittee Chairman Edward Markey (D-Mass.) will fail if agriculture-related provisions aren’t altered, and he’s said he has as many as 45 votes on his side.That number of Democratic defections would certainly doom the prospects of passing the bill in the House.
And while the Agriculture chairman said he’s working to resolve those differences and not intentionally trying to torpedo the legislation, he noted that skepticism toward the bill is growing, not shrinking.
“I’m just estimating the number of votes that will be against this,” Peterson said. “I suspect that the list has grown as more members have gotten a chance to look at this. I mean, my list has grown.”
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Lawmakers are raising questions about the measure and it’s unlikely to get much support among the 46 Democrats and Republicans on his panel, which will hold a hearing on the plan today, Peterson said. "The more people look at this, the more problems come up," Peterson, a Minnesota Democrat, told reporters yesterday. Peterson’s opposition demonstrates the difficulty that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, may have in getting majority support for the measure on the House floor even with the 256-178 Democratic majority. ... House Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson said he won’t support U.S. greenhouse-gas legislation backed by Democratic leaders unless changes are made to reduce its potential costs to farmers.
This issue is great when it’s just a dream that can be used to bash Republicans. Once there’s a chance it could actually be reality, the dem children start to panic.
well hell at least they are reading it !
Ho Humm.
Catttle Network, 11/18/2008
The Environmental Protection Agency issued an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking seeking public comment on whether it is appropriate to regulate greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from automobiles under the Clean Air Act. In order to regulate automobile emissions, the EPA would first have to make a finding that all greenhouse gases endanger public health and safety and should be classified as a “pollutant.”
Essentially, the EPA is ruling on whether or not GHG emissions should be classified as endangering public safety. If that finding is made, all GHGs including carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide would have to be regulated under the Clean Air Act. …
The vast majority of livestock operations would easily meet the 100 ton threshold and fall under regulation. In fact, USDA has stated that any operation with more than 25 dairy cows, or 50 beef cattle would have to obtain permits. According to USDA statistics, this would cover about 99 percent of dairy production and over 90 percent of beef production in the United States.
As the proposal stands today, the permit fees would equate to a “tax” of $175 per dairy cow and $87.50 per beef cow.
Greenhouse gas regulation under the Clean Air Act would not only adversely impact livestock producers but all farmers. Crop production emits nitrous oxide from fertilizer and methane from rice production, and fields that emit 100 tons of carbon would also be subject to permitting requirements as well. Any Florida farm with 500 acres of corn, 250 acres of soybeans, 350 acres of potatoes or only 35 acres of rice would be forced to obtain Clean Air Act permits.
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This was discussed on F&F the other day.
You can't make this stuff up folks! We are governed by morons.
We’ll see. But China just told us to take a hike (good for them), and that they will do what they need to do to grow their economy.
Apparently their leaders don’t drink Kool-Aid.
Nancy Pelosi’s lunatic dream is crashing to the ground. Praise the Lord!
Pelosi is just another stupid hack from California. Identical to the others that have run that state into the ground
Time to start pressuring our representatives.
The average American doesn’t believe this crap. Plus he sees how China and India will keep dumping CO2 into the atmosphere. He also sees this Cap and Trade stealing money from him in a depressed economy
My water bill just went up 18% even though people have cut way back on water use. Cap n Trade is just a larger version of this rip-off
“Time to start pressuring our representatives.”
Please, please do. I’m doing my best here in Australia but our idiot (conservative!) opposition is disposed towards passing our similar legislation, depending on what happens overseas. Having it come unstuck in the U.S. would make a huge difference.
your post brought up a vague memory of a famous Australian scientist who used to be a global warming proponent until a study of the upper atmosphere caused him to change his mind.
His article detailing his conversion was posted here last year sometime.
Will repost it for you if I can find it.
Sounds to me like some cracks are forming in the international consensus. Of course Zero will step in when the time is wrong to underscore we are going to do our part first by limiting the size of vehicles we drive and by capping emissions on power plants and the like. I think the GOPs push for nuclear power yesterday was a step in the right direction politically.
Meanwhile, the time is at hand to keep up the pressure on any of the Zero's ideas as he cannot handle opposition, especially when they take him on directly on issues like emissions and the coming health care debate. A little shove and he goes off the edge IMO and self destructs. I cannot wait to see him implode assuming it makes its way to TV.
I wish it were 2012 albeit I will be on social security then. Hopefully the electorate wakes up and pushes some of the jerks both in the GOP and DUMMO party out in 2010 too.
Vince
It was Dr. David Evans, last July. I posted the article which appeared in The Australian. He said that the greenhouse signature was missing:
“Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.”
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24036736-7583,00.html
He is one of many, but the government is still trying to bulldoze its emissions trading scheme through parliament. Even thought they’ve delayed the starting date by a year, they are trying to get the legislation through THIS year. The opposition has said that they want to wait until after Copenhagen but, unfortunately, they still buy the scam and have many points in common with the government. In fact, they have suggested a special session of parliament to pass it next January! Thankfully, the opposition here is in coalition with the National Party (rural) who are quite prepared to stand up and call it the nonsense that it is but its still very touch and go whether we end up lumbered with it or not. We have the same situation here as in the U.S., with the major papers, with the possible exception of The Australian, and the networks simply toeing the alarmist line and pooh poohing any discussion of the real issues.
LOL!
Well that saved me some work didn’t it?
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