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2 Japanese carrying $134 bil worth of U.S. bonds detained in Italy
Japan Today ^ | Thursday 11th June, 06:18 AM JST | JapanToday

Posted on 06/10/2009 10:45:08 PM PDT by Xenophon450

ROME —

Two Japanese nationals were detained by Italian financial police last week after trying to enter Switzerland with $134 billion worth of undeclared U.S. bonds, mostly Treasury bonds, an Italian daily said Wednesday. The Japanese consulate general in Milan confirmed that the detention had taken place and said it was trying to confirm with Italian authorities whether the two were indeed Japanese nationals and their identities.

According to the report in il Giornale, two unidentified Japanese in their 50s concealed the bonds, including 249 U.S. Treasury bonds each worth $500 million, in a suitcase with a false bottom that was searched by the Italian authorities June 3 when they were in Chiasso, at the border with Switzerland, about 50 kilometers north of Milan. The daily did not say on what charges they have been detained, but the two may have been detained on suspicion of attempting to take a large amount of securities out of Italy without declaring it because the paper said they had not declared the bonds.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Japan
KEYWORDS: 200906; 20090603; bearerbonds; bonds; counterfeit; fakebonds; italy; japan; japanese; mafia; meyerhardt; milan; milancell; stephenmeyerhardt; switzerland; tbills; tm; treasurybonds; undeclaredbonds; undeclaredusbonds; usbonds; ustreasurybonds
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To: Big_Monkey
As they say, this is hugh, I'm series.
61 posted on 06/10/2009 11:17:40 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Big_Monkey
As they say, this is hugh, I'm series.

Yep, and I was in the shower!

62 posted on 06/10/2009 11:18:18 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

A few months back I checked and Japan owned just over $500 billion in US securities and China about the same for a total of just over a trillion. To say this is the largest seizure of it’s kind is an understatement.


63 posted on 06/10/2009 11:18:24 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Xenophon450

Holy cow! 134 billion?? Columbian bonds?


64 posted on 06/10/2009 11:19:56 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Xenophon450

i dont understand, how you could carry $130 billion bond. Aren’t bonds like piece of paper that tells you have much they’re worth. Kinda like shares. They’re worthless on its on


65 posted on 06/10/2009 11:20:16 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SpaceBar
If bonds are collapsing, why sneak them into Switzerland? Unless Swiss banks can help you sell them. But how? Sovereigns have access to the same trading desks and networks. No practical reason to sneak them into Switzerland. Unless you are looting from a hedge fund...
66 posted on 06/10/2009 11:20:32 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington
"Wait... this could be a hedge fund manager ripping off its investors and doing a Madoff with the dough. Its possible. Crazy but possible. "

Seriously, my curiosity meter is pegged. Stupid Today Show will probably be talking about Jessica Simpson's nose hairs. I'll have to wait until somebody with a brain strolls into CNBC in the morning to find out. It's going to kill me.

67 posted on 06/10/2009 11:20:58 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: WKUHilltopper
Maybe they are really Zimbabwe bonds but the Italian guys got it mixed up because they read Schiff???
68 posted on 06/10/2009 11:21:26 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Big_Monkey

Actually, I’d kind of like to hear about Jessica Simpson’s nose hairs!!!


69 posted on 06/10/2009 11:22:09 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Xenophon450
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Anyone registered at ticker-forum? Posting this should get some interesting responses.

70 posted on 06/10/2009 11:22:42 PM PDT by roses of sharon (We must get a grip on what we can, and hold on. Hold on with energy, imagination, and ferocity)
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To: djf
We are in serious, deep doo. Seriously deep.

Isn't there a big Treasury bond auction tomorrow that is widely expected to be a fiasco? I wonder if someone was thinking of trying to start a panic by dumping these bonds on the market the same day.

An act of economic warfare may have been averted.

71 posted on 06/10/2009 11:23:12 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: SpaceBar
To say this is the largest seizure of it’s kind is an understatement.

If Italy confiscates this much dough, whomever owns the bonds is broke tomorrow morning. Which government collapses?

72 posted on 06/10/2009 11:23:40 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

LOL...maybe! I think the ChiComs or Japanese are (or were—now that the covers blown!) trying to quietly get out of US bonds. I would be.


73 posted on 06/10/2009 11:23:49 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: cookcounty
Oh, that’s right, it won’t get that bad until Obama’s second term.

I think you meant his second year.

74 posted on 06/10/2009 11:24:01 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: April Lexington

Fox News is still headlining the Palin/Letterman flap on their website so I guess this isn’t really that important.


75 posted on 06/10/2009 11:24:24 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: April Lexington

Yeah but Zim has just issued a 100 Trillion dollar banknote making 134 billion seem very small in comparison.


76 posted on 06/10/2009 11:25:46 PM PDT by xp38
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To: ccmay
An act of economic warfare may have been averted.

But, why sneak them into Switzerland. Bonds go there to hide, not lose value. I seriously doubt Switzerland will allow someone to create global panic after the tax issue and the Swiss banks issues. No. I think a huge hedge fund manager just Madoff (sp?) with some loot. Or, this whole story is wrong.

77 posted on 06/10/2009 11:25:47 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington
Maybe it's TARP money! /s (I think)

The list of possible suspects can't be that big. A drug cartel money is one that comes to mind. Maybe oil wealth fleeing the Middle East for safer places? It's a real head scratcher.

78 posted on 06/10/2009 11:29:00 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: April Lexington

That could be construed as an act of war.


79 posted on 06/10/2009 11:29:56 PM PDT by Xenophon450
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To: April Lexington

I think we can be assured that some US officials are on a redeye flight as we speak.


80 posted on 06/10/2009 11:30:17 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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