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To: MHGinTN
If born on US soil, a citizen, but you cannot extrapolate he would be eligible as a natural born citizen because the issue must have SCOTUS clarification before the issue can be settled based upon the Founders’ intent with the phrase ‘natural born citizen.’

Someone will have to bring a case, they'll take, then, and persuade them to carve out a third category of citizen. For now, there are only two kinds of citizen: natural born and naturalized. And a kid who is a citizen via the 14th Amendment is clearly not in the second category. It's not looking like it's in the cards this time around.

Actually, it would probably take another amendment, probably aimed at solving the anchor baby problem, which the 14th has caused. If such an amendment were properly written, it could also define citizenship for purposes of presidential eligibility. But then, you'd have to get it passed.

121 posted on 06/10/2009 9:26:15 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
Um, only two? I don't agree with that, obviously, since I think the phrase 'natural born citizen' has specific parameters according to what the founders said in other venues as it would apply specially for the office of President.

There are several of your group who post the contrarian position on CoLB threads, defending Barry's forgery as shown on the Internet, who would like to conflate native born and natural born, but I still contend the issue is far from settle law. You yourself tried to frame the issue as the difference between citizen ship and naturalized citizenship with the Wong Kim Ark case. You started with the supposition you claim to prove, assuming there are only two categories because no one has ever challenged the specific category as it applies only to the presidency. The U.S. Senate (June '08) didn't appear to agree with your specious assumption because they tried to give McCain a pass due to his questionable natural born status when there was no doubt he was a citizen and not a naturalized citizen.

124 posted on 06/10/2009 9:36:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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