I feel dirty that I'm on the same side as Waxman, Kennedy, Dodd, and Boxer. Except I believe the FDA shouldn't regulate tobacco, that power belongs to the states.
3,500 per day is a lot of children. You would like to believe conservatives would do something about it.
Gosh, I just find it hard to care about Dick Durbin’s problems....or his family’s for that matter.
really? it most definately is addicting.. having said that, I love my cigars, I surely do.. not to worry though.. the dems will have tobacco banned... I see it coming.. they will ban tobacco “for the children”.
Thank Gaia I have the government to protect me.
ban tobacco and make it illegal to grow or possess. That way no one would do-I mean pot is illegal and no one grows, possess, or uses it.
Seriously if waxman, kennedy, dodd an boxer think it is so bad they should outlaw it-oh wait I forgot, the government(s) make billions taxing it.
Never mind.
So ban it then or STFU. Stop pussy-footing around the issue.
Ban it and be done with it.
How much longer would my 88 year old smoking and dipping grandfather have lived if he had never touched t’backy?
no more addictive than big gubermint.
I bet big,statist gubermint has killed more people, too.
Somebody needs to put a vomit alert on this.
Bottom line - This is an issue for the states, always has been, and always will be.
Cigarettes are tobacco products - highly processed ones. You want to regulate that, fine I guess, whatever. (I’ll point out that anyone that consumes a product for 40 plus years and continues to live all that time will have a hard time convincing me that the product they’ve been consuming is principally the cause of their problems.)
My grandmother smoked for 60 years, and her health began to deteriorate precipitously the year her doctor finally badgered her into kicking the habit - never the same after that.
I’ll also point out, that tobacco companies could give a pack of cigarettes away to the distributor for free, and the distributor can turn around and give the pack to the retailer for free, and they in turn could agree to pass that on to the customer at no addtional expense, and the customer would still have to pay an average of $5.70/pack to the various governments (May issue, Cigar Magazine, 2009)
It’s ALREADY illegal to sell tobacco to minors in every state in the USA.
As such, please, is there any thing left that the federal government is not regulating in your life? I really want to know if there is something left that they haven’t touched at this point. Let that guide your heart on the issue, since most of the posts I’ve seen so far have been about how its so horrible how my wife’s cousin died of lung cancer after smoking for 30 years and not being able to kick the habit.
I had a classmate die of lung cancer at 32, and he was a marathoner who couldn’t have lived more heathfully if he had consulting help.
Leave. me. to. my. cigars. please.
It’s bad enough I can’t enjoy one under some roof somewhere, while somebody else wants ‘equal rights’ for committing acts of unprotected sodomy with random partners.
It’s just another power grab. That simple.
Like AlGore bringing em to tears at the convention about watching his sister die and swearing there, to fight tobacco. It would be sad, if he didnt stay in the Tobacco business for years after,,, that just makes his theater funny.
Struggled?? He is a closet smoker. Addicted. If he were a Republican those photos of smoking would have been banner headlines day after day. Yeah. Smoking is addictive. It is still a choice for many. I have never smoked. Both my parents were smokers. Always hated it but it is LEGAL. The Government makes waaaay to much in taxes for them to make it illegal.
“I feel dirty that I’m on the same side as Waxman, Kennedy, Dodd, and Boxer”
And there is your answer,, convince all you want, compel none. And it cant be that addicting, my dad smoked 14 years, then quit cold turkey when he accidently burned a hole in my little sisters dress when she was 2.
Can’t do that with heroin. I think the habit and the ceremony of lighting up is more addicting than the substance itself.
And if the left is serious about it, let em start with a law forbidding all smoking in movies! (let em screw their own constituency for once)
And that democrat star chamber you mentioned, any willing to vote to cease *all* support for tobacco farming? Or would they vote to prohibit all export of tobacco? NOooo,, that would cost them votes. It’s just a game to them,,
Why do you want government to control the behaviour of the governed? Where is that in the Constitution, federal or any state?
Durbin is a traitor anyway. He can rot in hell.
There was much the same rhetoric supporting Prohibition and look at consequences.
Dick, your cousin was about 65 years old, you had 55 years to get him to stop........why didn't you and why are you now so concerned?
Stay out my life you jackass......
If the liberals and do-gooders throughout the land were really sincere about their heart-wrenching tales of victimization by BIG BAD TOBACCO they would be working hard to make the product illegal.
Instead they spend their time thinking up new ways to squeeze tax money out of tobacco sales.
This isn’t about concern for the health of the populace.
If it was the federal and state governments would have put money from tobacco taxes and lawsuits into protected accounts to be spent only on tobacco related health issues.
But they have not done that - they have just run amok with it just like every other dollar they manage to extort from taxpayers.
The truth is that taxing tobacco is just another government scam to scare people with a threat of some sort and use that fear to screw them out of more their earnings.
There was a John Hopkins University study of those who had died of lung cancer. Of those who had smoked at least a pack a day for 25 years or more the ones who quit died at a higher rate than those who continued to smoke.
Are the politicians condemning a greater number to die than they are saving, sort of like the DDT ban?
So Durbin isn’t banning tobacco?
Addicting or not, it’s a personal decision to start - or quit.
I smoked for 30 years. Three packs a day for the last 10 or so. I quit cold turkey. No sympathy for those that think they have an issue with quitting.
72 hours folks. If you can last that long you got it made.