I hope you didn’t waste your time typing slowly. I’ve understood you from the beginning.
”. . . then I'll drop it.”
Do what you believe you must do. But, I must tell you that you will not move me. I’ll tell you why.
Creationism is a philosophical tenet of Christianity. Most people do not discuss philosophy or call it by various names; they simply live it. Before you start sneering, consider: many people live their lives conservatively, but when it comes to politics, they don’t talk conservative and they certainly don’t vote conservative.
You’ve cited several news puke publications to support your view of the ‘popular use’ and the common meaning of ‘Creationism.’ If I were to examine these same publications for their use of the term ‘Conservative,’ what might I find? I might find in popular use ‘Conservatism’ means bigot, racist, mean-spirited, hateful, indifferent, greedy, selfish, sexist, and on, and on, and on. Even if you are a Liberal and agree with all these appellations, you understand my point (although you might not want to admit it). If you are genuinely a Conservative, you would not want the term ‘Conservative’ subjected to the same standard of popular use with which you propose to judge ‘Creationist.’
Many dictionaries have not yet been politicized (I won’t say ‘all’; I haven’t read all dictionaries), and they are one of the few places in our society that is not corrupted by politics. Compare the dictionary definition of ‘conservative’ with what you will find in “popular use.” Like Jefferson, who proposed to retire to the Law as his last refuge, I propose to retire to the dictionary as my last refuge in the definition wars.
It may be that in your eagerness to press your point, you failed to appreciate the wider implications of what you are doing. If that is true, then I owe you an apology for questioning your motives. If you knew what you were doing; I owe you nothing.
You've understood me from the beginning?! Then all those places where you misrepresented my views about dictionaries were on purpose, and not because you didn't understand my point? Good to finally find out who I'm dealing with, I suppose.
I must tell you that you will not move me.
I know that! That's why I'm dropping it!
You’ve cited several news puke publications to support your view of the ‘popular use’ and the common meaning of ‘Creationism.’
Yeah, that Wall Street Journal is a real "news puke publication," all right. And you overlook the fact that I've cited several sources by people who call themselves creationists!
I might find in popular use ‘Conservatism’ means bigot, racist, mean-spirited, hateful, indifferent, greedy, selfish, sexist, and on, and on, and on.
Yeah, you might--if you could actually be bothered to look! Go ahead, find me a bunch of places in the WSJ, the LA Times-Picayune, or the New Yorker where "conservative" is used, without elaboration, as a synonym for racist or sexist.
you understand my point
I understand that you're making something up because you don't have any support for your original point.
you failed to appreciate the wider implications of what you are doing.
There are no wider implications of what I'm doing. If you have an argument with the fact that "creationism" is almost never used to mean just "a philosophical tenet of Christianity," take it up with the people who call themselves creationists or the people who set creationism in opposition to evolution right here on FR. I have no agenda in using their own term--in fact, I'm doing them a favor. Maybe I'll start demanding that they use "creationist" to refer to people who accept the theory of evolution too, and direct them to you when they object.