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To: muawiyah
“Adam was created AFTER the plants and AFTER the Sun.” [excerpt]
But Genesis 1 doesn't explicitly say the dirt was warm yet.

If the Earth was one big block of ice on day four, there is no way that it could have warmed up by day six.

If the Sun had put out enough heat to warm the earth to body tempreture, everything would have been scorched shortly after day eight.

“The problem here is that with the plants created BEFORE the Sun, and absent a local "light source" (Sun, Moon, created next day) knowing what we now know about "light", the plants would have been doggone cold.” [excerpt]
So how long did the oceans take to melt?

Did the waters melt in a single day?

Or could the fish swim in ice.

“We are allowed to "know what we know now" and reflect on those same things when they occur in Genesis, but we can't change the order in which they appear.” [excerpt]
Hehe, yeah, that'll go real far.

“That would CHANGE THE TIMELINE of the FIRST SEVEN DAYS.” [excerpt]
If the oceans were 0 degrees Kelvin on day 2, and on day 4 the Sun was made, and then on day 6 Adam was made at which point the oceans were, say, 60 degrees Fahrenheit (288 Kelvin), then logically on day 9, the oceans Earth would be 579 degrees Fahrenheit (577 Kelvin) and everything would be burnt to a crisp. (Mmmmm, crispy critters)

You might want reconsider the possibility that God created an Earth that was warm. (remember, the the Earth has a molten core, and the Sun didn't melt it)
194 posted on 06/11/2009 3:09:26 PM PDT by Fichori
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To: Fichori
At the same time we're pretty sure the ancients had no idea how big the Earth was, nor how far it was to the mantle (where it really starts to get really hot).

Sure, they had volcanoes around, but they don't hold a candle to the real stuff.

A number of writers have tried their hand at creating "world ships" (great vessels that travel between the stars) that meet the requirements set forth in Genesis.

They keep running up against the problem of "the sequence" ~ really hard to deal with it.

Personally I think Moses lifted these stories from existing documents and tablets he had right there in Egypt ~ plus, he prayed a lot ~ plus, he had visions ~ plus he wasn't a very good astronomer, nor geologist, and he had no idea about the fact he was living in an interglacial during a very large and long Ice Age.

Otherwise he'd taken better notes.

Eventually we'll find the tablets he used, or ones like them, that have "versions" of these stories that are very close to the Hebrew traditions. Father Abraham, came from the part of the world where writing was invented. Must have blown Moses mind when he came across some of the old stuff the Hebrews were hauling around.

195 posted on 06/11/2009 3:38:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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