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To: muawiyah; metmom
“Does it matter. There are dozens of translations. I gave you my reference for this discussion. Try 2:4 ~ it says right there - to wit: "This is the account 9 of the heavens and the earth when they were created – when the Lord God made the earth and heavens. "” [excerpt]
The word that the OKJ renders generations (and whatever you are using renders account) is תולדות (towlĕdah)

Outline of Biblical usage:
1) descendants, results, proceedings, generations, genealogies
a) account of men and their descendants
1) genealogical list of one's descendants
2) one's contemporaries
3) course of history (of creation etc)
b) begetting or account of heaven (metaph)

Considering that in the context of the tense change between verse 3 and 4, as well what is written in the NT regarding the Creation, it is clear that it is a recounting of something that happened earlier.

Look at Genesis 5:1

More towlĕdah, except this time, for Adam.
“Two stories ~ two creations ~ just a chapter apart ~ with their own sequences.” [excerpt]
Whoa, hold on a second.

Go look at Genesis 5:2

Does that make three Creation accounts?

“I'm sure you've got arguments prepared to tie the two together,” [excerpt]
Nope, sorry.

“but that will cause you to deviate from the precision of the timeframe,” [excerpt]
No.

“which is an integral part of the stories ~ both of them ~ and definitely as much a part of the language handed down by God to Moses as any other part.” [excerpt]
Yes, the time frame is explicit.

“If you deviate you can get the birds to have someplace to land. if you don't deviate you have to explain why the plants have no Sun to give them light and warmth.” [excerpt]
Oh no!

Everybody panic!

Plants in Alaska have to withstand long dark cold periods in the winter!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Seriously, when the days of Creation are literally interpreted as the Hebrew clearly states, the plants had only (at most) a day to wait before the Sun shone on them.


178 posted on 06/10/2009 8:39:36 PM PDT by Fichori
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To: Fichori

A Day to wait in ABSOLUTE ZERO!


179 posted on 06/11/2009 4:34:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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