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What IS U.S Policy on Israeli Settlements?
Jeruaslem Center for Public Affairs ^ | June 6, 2009 | Ambassador Dore Gold

Posted on 06/09/2009 12:00:35 AM PDT by jerusalemjudy

1. The Obama administration is demanding additional Israeli concessions beyond Oslo.

2. Current settlement activity no longer diminishes Palestinian territory.

3. The Gaza disengagement proves that a settler presence does not undermine future territorial compromise.

4. Does the Obama administration reject defensible borders and settlement blocs and expect Israel to return to the 1967 borders?

(Excerpt) Read more at jcpa.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; settlements; uspolicy

1 posted on 06/09/2009 12:00:35 AM PDT by jerusalemjudy
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To: jerusalemjudy

Concessions don’t get you anything. Each concession is only the prelude to the next round of warfare; in effect “concessions” are the reward to the arabs for returning to war. It is a reverse incentive; concessions are an incentive for the arabs to return to war.

You have to reverse the incentive or it won’t work.

You have to make the arabs pay for each return to war. Every attack that makes it across the line into Israeli territory, whether it be a deluded teenager in a dynamite vest or a mortar shell or a rocket sailed into a neighborhood, every attack must be answered by the seizure and annexation of arab land.

Its “Land for Peace”, but up until now the wires have been reversed and the machine has been running backwards. Swap the wires around, get the incentive in line with your purposes, and “Land for Peace” will work just fine. Killing terrorists alone will never work; the arabs do not mourn their loss, and their loss transmits no pain. Only the loss of territory transmits pain. Every violation of the peace must cost the arabs in land or there will never be peace. Rewarding war with “concessions” guarantees more war with a dead certainty.


2 posted on 06/09/2009 12:11:26 AM PDT by marron
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To: jerusalemjudy

The Prophet Hussein expects Israel to pull back to pre-1948 borders. He is in tight with Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Saudis.

He is a deity according to the U.S. news media and Israel should comply with all of his requests as he is a divine being.


3 posted on 06/09/2009 12:15:41 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: jerusalemjudy

About the only thing that Obama has done right since taking office is telling Israel to stop all settlements. No amount of propaganda can change the fact that the existence of the settlements and Israeli occupation and oppression in the occupied territories and East Jerusalem are impediments to peace and detrimental to US interests. It is past time for Israel to end its occupation, evacuate all areas seized in 1967, and stop its Arab citizens and those under its occupation. The US should stop aid to Israel until it obides by US requests and demands that it stops all settlement activities.


4 posted on 06/09/2009 12:16:48 AM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: marron

It is pathetic to see concern about “rewarding war” if Israel has to make concessions. To accept any occupation outside Israel’s original borders or to accept any settlements is to reward war, regardless of who started it. Within recent history, say the last 100 years, Europe and Israel started it by imposing the Jewish state of Israel upon the Middle East. This mistake is long past undoing but that does not mean it is acceptable to reward Israel with expanded borders.


5 posted on 06/09/2009 12:21:01 AM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: jerusalemjudy
What IS U.S Policy on Israeli Settlements?

The Israelis must give the Arabs whatever they demand so that the Obamanation gets a signed piece of paper and after that his Nobel Peace Prize.

The piece of paper doesn't have to produce actual peace in the Middle East(see the Le Duc Tho/Henry Kissinger Nobel Peace Prize), just bragging rights for President Urkel personally.

Any further questions about U.S. policy?

6 posted on 06/09/2009 12:21:53 AM PDT by Cheburashka ("Ah, Roulette. My favorite game, after Call of Duty.")
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To: Matthew Weaver

You sound just like one of the Arabs telling Obama what to do.

Obama should support Israel and stay out of her domestic issues.


7 posted on 06/09/2009 12:47:46 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: Matthew Weaver

Every attack on Israel should cost the attacker the loss of territory. Nothing else will work; nothing else gets their attention.

The attacks on Israel did not start with the seizure of the west bank, Israel has been subjected to terror attacks since day one. Concessions do not reduce the attacks, in fact they create a reverse incentive to continue the attacks.

So does that mean Israel should continue to occupy the west bank? No. It does mean simply this; Israel must not wait for the arabs to desire peace, because that day isn’t coming any time soon. Israel must choose the border she considers to be defensible, the border she is prepared to live or die by. She must get her people on the safe side of that border. And seal it; there should be no access to Israel by surface road for a generation.

The arab west bank has no future as an independent territory; it will never be independent. Its only future is reintegration with its mother country, Jordan. They don’t want it? Then war and chaos continues. Gaza similarly has no future as an independent territory, it should be reintegrated with Egypt. Anything else guarantees that war and chaos will go on. Neither territory is viable as an independent state, they are doomed to be what they are, outlaw territories ruled by outlaws. The longer we go on trying to make something so that will never be so, the longer we delay doing what has to be done, and the more Israeli civilians and the more deluded arab teenagers die.


8 posted on 06/09/2009 12:48:53 AM PDT by marron
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Obama says we should promote the aims of Hamas as well as promote worldwide appreciation for homosexuality. Thanks all people who sat at home to protest McCain last year.


9 posted on 06/09/2009 1:18:04 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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10 posted on 06/09/2009 5:41:52 AM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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