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To: trumandogz
When Roe is overturned, abortion will still be murder and murder will still be against the law in all states. I doubt that you would advocate a state's legalization of murder of a four year old child.

One, I'm not advocating anything. I'm telling you what the law is.

Second, killing someone is not murder. Murder has a specific legal definition. Murder is the taking of a human life without just cause. The law defines what just cause is and what a human life is.

Roe v. Wade did not "make abortion legal." Roe v. Wade said that existing state laws against abortion were unconstitutional and were therefore not to be enforced.

That means that with Roe in place, all state laws that ban abortion are subject to Supreme Court oversight. As the current Supreme court decree is that any law that outright bans abortion would be overturned due to the current validity of the Roe case, there are currently no state laws that cover a complete ban on abortion because there are no state laws that specify exactly what a human life is. That would have to be spelled out by the legislatures of the several states and survive the inevitable court cases seeking to overturn such laws.

So, if Roe were to be overturned tomorrow, that would not automatically make abortion illegal.

And even if it did, the facts are the facts.

Even when abortion was illegal, only two women have ever been charged and tried for aborting their child and both of those were prior to 1923.

So the idea that "Yes, and when Roe is overturned and abortion is made illegal, women who have abortions will be charged with murder" is just a bunch of crap.

It didn't happen before when abortion was illegal. The idea that if Roe were overturned that women seeking illegal abortions would suddenly be locked up is ludicrous at best.

171 posted on 06/09/2009 11:18:17 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Knitebane
Second, killing someone is not murder.

Aborting a baby is murder and until the vast majority of the people in this realize that fact, Roe will stand and abortion will continue to be legal.

So, if Roe were to be overturned tomorrow, that would not automatically make abortion illegal.

Of course, and when the states criminalize abortion, they will have to classify the act of abortion as Capital Murder and impose the same penalties upon the offenders (abortionist, mother and all who conspired) as if they were the persons involved killed a four year old child.

The idea that if Roe were overturned that women seeking illegal abortions would suddenly be locked up is ludicrous at best.

So, do you believe that it is also ludicrous to lock up a woman who kills her two year old baby?

172 posted on 06/09/2009 11:53:50 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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