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Born identity Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations
The Honolulu Star Bulletin ^ | June 6, 2009 | June Watanabe

Posted on 06/06/2009 3:46:22 PM PDT by jamese777

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To: Star Traveler
Ummm.., it’s saying you’re not getting anything else from the State of Hawaii about Obama, other than what Obama showed you...

Well, at least somebody around here gets it.

61 posted on 06/06/2009 5:02:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Star Traveler
You must think I’m schizophrenic, then...

I'll go with that description, anything else I might think and post would more than likely get me banned, and you ain't worth it, LOL

How's that for a sense of humor?

62 posted on 06/06/2009 5:02:02 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I was just trying to be consistent with your logic and help you along... :-)


63 posted on 06/06/2009 5:02:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
“And if it doesn’t apply to “all” federal requirements”...

There are “federal requirements” that simply pertain the the format of an electronic facsimile (certification) of a birth certificate.

In this context the phrase “Federal Requirements” is a term that simply pertains to the structure the form, and is not being extended to all things pertaining to identity. There are different “Federal Requirements” for different things. Examples include applications for passports and security clearances. Each of these items have very different standards. Another example is eligibility to hold office of the POTUS - yet very different from the first two.

The alleged statement by the Hawaiian official pertained to the standards for the structure of the Cert of Live Birth form. It was not in relation to the federal standards to be eligible to hold office of the POTUS, a passport, security clearance,...etc.

64 posted on 06/06/2009 5:03:00 PM PDT by motoman
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To: Star Traveler
Not biting
65 posted on 06/06/2009 5:03:41 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: Safrguns

NO, The governor said she SAW the original Birth Certificate

that is NOT a certificate of live birth


66 posted on 06/06/2009 5:04:45 PM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: motoman

Well, I can see your point. If so, it would pay for someone to “pin him down” as to that definition he gave...

That’s basically what I would think. But, then again, I don’t think this hunt for Obama’s birth certificate is going to go anywhere, anyway.

I think the best solution for this problem (of documentation) is for the states to enact laws to require the specific document before being put on the ballot. Several states are already doing that now. That’s everyone’s answer to this problem.


67 posted on 06/06/2009 5:04:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

woof!


68 posted on 06/06/2009 5:05:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

LOL


69 posted on 06/06/2009 5:06:25 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: Star Traveler

“But, then again, I don’t think this hunt for Obama’s birth certificate is going to go anywhere, anyway.”

It’s not going to go away until his original birth records are unsealed.


70 posted on 06/06/2009 5:07:24 PM PDT by motoman
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To: mojitojoe; Star Traveler
You are hoping your KENYAN MARXIST boy is never exposed.

Boy, are you ever barking up the wrong tree!~

71 posted on 06/06/2009 5:09:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: motoman

Well, you’re probably right — that it’s not going to go away — it’s just that I don’t think it’s going to make any difference in how things are turning out and who is President and what’s going on in real life. But, you’re probably right — it’s not going away...


72 posted on 06/06/2009 5:09:18 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
“it would pay for someone to “pin him down” as to that definition he gave...”

This “person” is of zero value (and it's actually a “she”).

She has no controlling legal authority to reveal any details beyond whatever may have already been released publicly via the “Certification of Live Birth”, assuming that it was not a forged document.

Millions of Americans are asking for the original birth records to be unsealed. His lawyers have, and continue to fight tooth and nail at each court battle to block the release of these records.

You should be demanding the same.

73 posted on 06/06/2009 5:12:31 PM PDT by motoman
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To: UCANSEE2

Let me proffer a definition for a “KENYAN MARXIST” for you and others on Free Republic...


Anyone who disagrees with an Obama Derangement Syndrome FReeper — is a KENYAN MARXIST.


Actually, that is the most accurate and effective definition that I’ve been able to derive after all these months of listening to them.... LOL...

Oh..., and it doesn’t matter that you oppose Obama, or didn’t vote for him, or campaigned against him — all that matters is that you disagree with that poster...


74 posted on 06/06/2009 5:12:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: RaceBannon; Safrguns
The governor said she SAW the original Birth Certificate

That was after obammy visited her.

I bet she would say she saw GODZILLA if obammy told her to.

75 posted on 06/06/2009 5:13:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: motoman

I did demand the same, until the election was over and I saw the “handwriting on the wall”...

My next move was to support the state laws to require documentation for candidates or else they couldn’t be put on the ballot. I figured that was my best next move...


76 posted on 06/06/2009 5:14:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Doesn’t that apply to any ‘label’ used as a personal attack, in order to delude one’s self into believing one has won the discussion?


77 posted on 06/06/2009 5:17:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Star Traveler

“... it’s just that I don’t think it’s going to make any difference in how things are turning out ...”

Wrong

The earth will move beneath your feet if it is discovered via court order that he has lied about his true identity.

One of two things will happen:

- He will be impeached
- He will definitely not win a second term

He will be labeled as the greatest fraud to ever have occupied the Office.


78 posted on 06/06/2009 5:17:24 PM PDT by motoman
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To: motoman

You said — The earth will move beneath your feet if it is discovered via court order that he has lied about his true identity.

Well, while I wouldn’t say that you are wrong in that assessment as far as what would happen... where I say you’re wrong is in that it *will* happen with a court order. That is what is going nowhere and has been that way from the beginning of this whole thing...

What *will* go somewhere — though — are those state laws requiring documentation before someone can be put on the ballot.

In the one instance (of getting a court to do that) it’s an “iffy” situation and not guaranteed at all.

But, in the other instance of that state law, there are already three states that I know of moving on that right now. So, that’s not so “iffy” you see...


79 posted on 06/06/2009 5:20:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Translation: We converted all the old Birth Certificates into electronic facsimile “Certifications” and then destroyed the originals. Tough noogies..

Translation: "We destroyed the evidence."

80 posted on 06/06/2009 5:21:23 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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