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Exclusive Interview with Future Prediction Expert Gerald Celente ( Greater Depression after 2010 )
humanevents.om ^ | 06/05/2009 | Terry Easton

Posted on 06/06/2009 8:53:17 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: rob777; nathanbedford

You’re both right. Celente’s piece lacks critical thinking. We don’t function in a vaccum and millions of producers/entrepreneurs are not going to just suicide. They’ll fight and find a way.

We’ve survived other idiotic administrations and economic crises. We’ll survive this one and adapt as only the free market can.


41 posted on 06/06/2009 10:19:14 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: kellynla

You must be related to this guy. That’s the only way I can explain your childish retorts to anyone who dares to question him.


42 posted on 06/06/2009 10:22:20 AM PDT by KevinB (Those who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either being made.)
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To: kellynla

Piffle! The world is going to end on 12/21/12 so it really is a moot subject.


43 posted on 06/06/2009 10:25:40 AM PDT by toomuchcoffee ( Yeah, I'll help you buy some real estate)
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To: 1010RD
"We’ve survived other idiotic administrations and economic crises. We’ll survive this one and adapt as only the free market can."


I agree, unfortunately we seem to be missing the opportunity to do much more than merely survive. If we could combine a "hands off" approach to government with the current entrepreneurial explosion, the sky would be the limit.
44 posted on 06/06/2009 10:27:45 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: rob777
That is not in the Leftist play book. They are smarter than us and their meddling is in our best interests.

Sadly, even guys like Barry Ritholtz who otherwise get it are calling for more regulation of the financial industry. Would two cops ignoring the crime have made the crime less serious?

I mean SOX is a disaster and the new taxation on commodities will just lead to higher food prices for the average person.

Smaller, less intrusive government is simply too scary for some to contemplate.

45 posted on 06/06/2009 10:32:44 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: kellynla
"And the wealthy people are leaving."

Where are the wealthy people going???

46 posted on 06/06/2009 10:33:39 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: KevinB
“childish retorts?”

And what “childish retorts” might those be?

47 posted on 06/06/2009 10:38:14 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Another dimension to ‘dumbing down’ is the fact of biology they are dumb.

Well, yes. It doesn't help that you put EVERYONE through school or even college in order to be "fair," and as a result have to dumb down what is taught to the better students. Some people are better suited--and happier--doing manual labor, which they will end up doing anyway, assuming they don't turn to welfare and foodstamps, or mugging and drug peddling, instead.

48 posted on 06/06/2009 10:38:33 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
"He speaks of a “W” on the economic charts. What that means is a V bottom, a small recovery, and then the plunge into a much lower bottom after 2010."

Yup. The peak in the middle of the 'W' are the 'green shoots' we're supposedly experiencing presently.

49 posted on 06/06/2009 10:48:04 AM PDT by blam
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To: Vince Ferrer
"Christmas is not too far away, because right now is the beginning of the peak season for shipping the finished retail goods which will stock our retail stores."

I thought I saw some predictive shipping data recently that suggests a terrible Christmas, retail wise.

50 posted on 06/06/2009 10:51:46 AM PDT by blam
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To: kellynla; nathanbedford
I read this long report from Jim Rogers last night. His conclusions are not much different than Celentes'.

Fund Managers Can Become Farmers: Jim Rogers

51 posted on 06/06/2009 10:58:10 AM PDT by blam
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To: rob777; 1010RD
You are right to draw our attention to the unknown and unknowable implications of technological breakthroughs. Even the Obama administration understands this new reality. For example, although they are nationalizing a 19th century business, automobile manufacturing, they want to do it in a modern way, to build green cars.

This merely demonstrates their arrogance. They think they can get ahead of technology that they can guide it and control it. But it is coming so fast that it is bewildering and no government can hope to master it. In doing so it might be able to throttle it but I cannot master it.

What ever form the revolutionary new technology takes, it might just be enough to redeem us from all of the mistakes and waste which will be the inevitable result of Obama managing a command economy from the top down.


52 posted on 06/06/2009 11:02:34 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: edcoil
"Gerald Celente, Futurist Fraud

Like Denninger too?

What's Dead? (Short Answer: All Of It)

"Civil unrest will break out before the end of the year. The Military and Guard will be called up to try to stop it. They won't be able to. Big cities are at risk of becoming a free-fire death zone. If you live in one, figure out how you can get out and live somewhere else if you detect signs that yours is starting to go "feral" - witness New Orleans after Katrina for how fast, and how bad, it can get."

The bad news is that you won't have a job, pension, annuity, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and, quite possibly, your life."

And others:

The Worst Case Scenario (Someone Has to Say It)

53 posted on 06/06/2009 11:08:12 AM PDT by blam
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To: Para-Ord.45

Listening to Kudlow on WABC right now saying the exact opposite.

Soooooooooooo, Obama said unemployment if we do the stimlus package would not go over 8%, well guess where it is now..and we did the stimulus!


54 posted on 06/06/2009 11:10:47 AM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: blam
Yeaaaaaaaaa but what about Rogers’ “scholarship?” J/K...LOL
55 posted on 06/06/2009 11:12:07 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: ChocChipCookie

This might be of interest to you
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10509077/1/dry-bulk-stocks-fall-on-worrisome-data.html?puc=_tscrss


56 posted on 06/06/2009 11:18:48 AM PDT by EBH (I am not your comrade, nor sheeple, nor surf or slave; but a Freeman.)
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To: blam; kellynla
I have enormous respect for Jimmy Rogers even though he is a former partner of George Soros because he is the quintessential Libertarian. He is absolutely cold-blooded in his analysis. Rogers does not engage in wishful thinking. He does not let human emotion, not even patriotism, and certainly not partisan politics, affect his judgments.

I will make an extraordinary statement, Jimmy Rogers is a very humble man. I don't mean he is a hand wringer or a cringing fellow, I mean that he accepts the limits of his ability to understand. His skepticism which at times verges on cynicism, is easily confused with arrogance and he has a shortness of manner which would lead the untutored observer to conclude that he is in fact arrogant. But that is the opposite of the truth.

If you watch the television interview from which the article to which you refer is derived, you will see and hear him say what a terrible trader he is. You will hear them say that such and such is unknowable. That is the essence of humility and it is a far cry from what we are reading of Mr. Celente.

Jimmy Rogers has a decades long record of giving concrete investment advice which is proved perspicacious. He is not a one act play.

You are right, he too sees inflation on the horizon but he knows the limits of his ability to time it and to define the limits in the social consequences. He thinks that the effects will be bullish for commodities and he acknowledges that gold is part of his portfolio. He says he is not short stocks, a situation which for him is nearly unique, because he believes inflation might blast off in the market. But he does not have enough confidence in his judgment to be long the stock market except for some remaining holdings in China. Another example of his humility.


57 posted on 06/06/2009 11:22:00 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: kellynla

I’m currently reading Amity Shlae’s “The Forgotten Man.” Lots of parallels from the depression years with what’s going on today. I don’t doubt that there are hard(er) times ahead.


58 posted on 06/06/2009 11:42:53 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: parisa

It may be fashionable to blast GM, but not all their products were/are junk.


59 posted on 06/06/2009 11:51:06 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: blueyon
Soooooooooooo, Obama said unemployment if we do the stimlus package would not go over 8%, well guess where it is now..and we did the stimulus!


60 posted on 06/06/2009 12:09:11 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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