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To: Quix

What’s really disgusting is that this woman appears to be a convert to Islam, not an immigrant. Converts (blacks and whites) seem to be the most radicalized of the Islamists, certainly more so than those I know who were born Muslims. Most Muslims I have met are professionals and few are possessed with this woman’s religious fervor. A Bosnian friend believes these people are trying to raise their status in the eyes of the local imam.


6 posted on 06/06/2009 8:28:58 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: 12Gauge687

“A Bosnian friend believes these people are trying to raise their status in the eyes of the local imam.”

Did this crazy bitch just blow the cover for the Imam?


11 posted on 06/06/2009 8:47:35 AM PDT by WellyP (OIL)
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To: 12Gauge687

imho . . . and there’s some research to support it . . .

CONVERTS . . . particularly to . . . fringe, atypical . . . etc. sorts of

RELIGIONS . . . even causes . . .

tend to be just prior thereto

flailing about in an emotional, existential crisis

desperately looking for a log in a hurricane.

Almost any log will do.

All the better if the log is VERY DIFFERENT from parents, classmates etc etc etc . . . those the individual feels rejected by, persecuted by, in rebellion against etc. etc. etc.

Throw in lots of ATTACHMENT DISORDER; personality variables given to INTENSE RELIGIOUS FERVOR . . . and a new Jihadi is off and running . . . or a new JW . . . Hari Krishna devotee etc. etc.

Islam is tailor made for such because of the rules; the intense emotionality; the ‘clear’ roles; the authoritarian mindlessness; the emotional surrender to group-think and the ‘sense of belonging’ arising from that; . . .

RELIGION

(vs RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD)

always tends to suck-up such desperate aimless flailing about souls.

There was a book decades ago . . .

THE TRUE BELIEVER . . .

turns out

THE TRUE BELIEVER IS

NOT

the TRUE Believer in the Biblical sense. Rather, it’s someone who’s taken on (even Christian) RELIGION as a coat . . . for various purposes—could even be business reasons . . . but may be psychodynamic reasons . . . and the RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHY has become a raison d’etre—a reason for being that eclipses everything else in life.

EVEN IF IT’S THE TRUTH of Christianity—it can become a deadly caricature of the authentic RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS.

THE FORM, THE HOOPLA, THE GROUP-THINK, THE EMOTIONAL WIND, etc. becomes an idolatrous obsession providing meaning for existence; meaning for, perhaps, paradoxically, some level of rebellion against past persons and experiences.

The research is QUITE CLEAR on this point . . .

1. The indiscrimminantly anti-religious are the MOST DANGEROUS; MOST BIASED; MOST RACIST; MOST BIGGOTED.

2. 2nd MOST SUCH are the INDISCRIMMINANTLY PRO-RELIGIOUS.

3. It turns out that the INDISCRIMMINANTLY PRO-RELIGIOUS are mostly the same group also called EXTRINSICALLY RELIGIOUS—who put their religion on like a cloak for various purposes conscious and unconscious.

4. THE AUTHENTIC TRULY “INTRINSIC” CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS ARE BY FAR—A STANDARD DEVIATION OR TWO, IIRC, THE LEAST BIGOTTED, BIASED, DANGEROUS ETC. —BY FAR THE LEAST SUCH—NOT SUCH AT ALL, ESSENTIALLY.


19 posted on 06/06/2009 9:06:38 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 12Gauge687; Quix

You said — What’s really disgusting is that this woman appears to be a convert to Islam, not an immigrant.

Well, I can pretty much guarantee you then, in not being an immigrant, that you’ll find that her *husband* is an immigrant and a Muslim. And thus, that makes her a Muslim (mandated by her husband, of course) and all her kids Muslim — by law (Sharia law).

The problem is that the Muslims have decided to *take over this country* and marry American white girls (or whomever is a citizen her) and turn them into Muslims and raise little Muslim terrorists — by the dozen... doncha know.

No..., that’s their strategy. They’ll simply outbreed every other group around in the United States. And by this method, they know that they’ll take over the U.S. in a mere generation or two — if not sooner, by acquiescence of the American Public....


35 posted on 06/06/2009 9:57:00 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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