It's John Donne and not Scripture which says that when a man dies the bell tolls for all of us. When an unrepentant murderer leaves this earth it can only mean the world is getting better and God's judgment is being met.
But I still would not call for any individual to murder even a murderer. Two wrongs don't make a right. And if Roeder doesn't repent, he, too, is in jeopardy of joining Tiller in hell for eternity.
And we cannot lose sight of the fact we may be getting played in this entire event. It wouldn't be the first time.
It is not murder to kill someone certain to kill someone else. It is some other level of homicide.
It's very PC for me to say, "Ain't it awful that the Murderer was Murdered.", but the truth is that life and death are in the hands of God. If God wanted Tiller here, he'd still be here. His time was approved.
God's instrumentalities date back to the decrees to create, and in my understanding, those decrees occurred AFTER "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." In other words, the slain Lamb predated the foundation.
I can't wait to see how this one turns out.
Dr. E, NOBODY on this forum EVER advocated for Tiller to be gunned down. But now that he has been gunned down, we have to deal with the consequences of the act. What are the consequences? Well to start with there have been no late term abortions in the State of Kansas since 5/31/09.
I suspect it was God's sovereign will that there would be no late term abortions this last 7 days. I suspect that while God does not take pleasure at the death of the wicked, the heavens have rejoiced at the lives that have been spared since Roeder took the law into his own hands.
I cannot condemn Roeder for what he did because I have many times called Abortion "murder" and in that sense I have many times fueled the very fire that burned within him. I would have preferred that God had taken him out with a bolt of lightning or with fire from heaven, but he didn't.
While I too take no pleasure in the death of Tiller, I cannot say that I have for even one second contemplated that idea that I am sorry that he is dead. I could no more weep for Tiller than I could weep for the Nazi guards at Buchenwald or Dachau. And less human beings were slaughtered at either of those facilities than were slaughtered at the Tiller clinic in Wichita.
I pray that someday there will be a memorial to the 60,000 innocent lives that were butchered on the spot where that horrid "clinic" now stands. Likewise I hope that there may also be a plaque at the "Church" where Tiller met his maker commemorating the end of a violent holocaust.
But I am not optimistic. The pro-life movement, such as it is, is apparently calling for Roeder's blood while at the same time crying crocodile tears over the greatest serial murderer this planet has ever seen. Where is their call for mercy and forgiveness of Roeder's actions? That would be politically incorrect. The politically correct position is that Roeder can't be executed fast enough and the call from the Abortions Rights people and the Right to Life people sounds eerily idential. Politics makes for strange bedfellows.
Amen!
xzin-I couldn't even fake being sorry that Tiller is dead.
Amen!
All men, Christian or not, do evil things simply because God removes His hand of grace from them leaving them to follow their own devices. Our nature is evil and left to ourselves we will produce evil fruit. If anything, Tiller and Roeder serves to show to what level we can sink if it were not for God's substaining hand.
1Pe 4:15 Make sure that none of you suffers as a murderer, or thief, or evildoer, or a troublesome meddler;