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Why Holocaust shocked Obama's uncle
Jerusalem Post ^ | 6-5-09 | RAFAEL MEDOFF

Posted on 06/05/2009 5:35:39 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 06/05/2009 5:35:39 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 06/05/2009 5:37:48 AM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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President Barack Obama's planned visit to the former Nazi concentration camp of Buchenwald on June 5 will have special significance because his great uncle, Charlie Payne, was one of the American soldiers who liberated a sub-camp of Buchenwald sixty-four years ago.

I thouhgt that was just another Delusion of My Father?

3 posted on 06/05/2009 5:40:28 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: SJackson
President Barack Obama's planned visit to the former Nazi concentration camp of Buchenwald on June 5 will have special significance because his great uncle, Charlie Payne, was one of the American soldiers who liberated a sub-camp of Buchenwald sixty-four years ago

I read an article on Freerepublic recently that exposed this claim as a lie.

4 posted on 06/05/2009 5:42:00 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: SJackson

By the end of Obama’s term, he was have more Jewish blood on his hands than Hitler. Obama is feeding the Jews to the Islam Extremists.


5 posted on 06/05/2009 5:42:29 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: DouglasKC

I think that is why they now say ‘sub-camp’, it was not actually Buchenwald.


6 posted on 06/05/2009 5:43:41 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: SJackson

Traitorous, rebellious-to-God, duplicitous . . .

jerks . . .

Shame on you, Ike. I thought you had more of a spine, than that.

Obviously, the oligarchy was calling the MSM shots then, as well.


7 posted on 06/05/2009 5:44:02 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SJackson

I thought the “didn’t leave the attic for six months” thing was a lie as well.


8 posted on 06/05/2009 5:52:27 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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The average GI reading Stars and Strips had no way of knowing that Jews were the main victims of the Nazis.

That's because the Jews weren't the main victims of the Nazis.

The records on the numbers of people killed are imprecise, but odds are the Nazis killed at least as many Gentiles as Jews.

Recall the writings of Rev. Niemoller.

9 posted on 06/05/2009 5:53:13 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DouglasKC
I read an article on Freerepublic recently that exposed this claim as a lie.

It happened, maybe the attic thing, that doesn't pass the smell test to me. His great uncle says Obama's visit is a publicity stunt.

Obama's Great-Uncle Says President Visiting Concentration Camp Site for 'Political Reasons'

10 posted on 06/05/2009 5:56:41 AM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: DuncanWaring
That's because the Jews weren't the main victims of the Nazis.

So what's the problem, as the article notes Stars and Stripes acknowledged the killing of non-Jews, they just Jews out. Which is fine, the secret couldn't be kept.

11 posted on 06/05/2009 5:58:27 AM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: DouglasKC
I read an article on Freerepublic recently that exposed this claim as a lie.

IIRC, the devil was in the details. Obama said his uncle had helped liberate Auschwitz, when it was actually the sub-camp of Buchenwald. He got the details wrong but the story was essentially true.

12 posted on 06/05/2009 6:04:54 AM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: DouglasKC

Said uncle would have been 62 at the time of the liberation.

Far too old for front line infantry duty.


13 posted on 06/05/2009 6:07:22 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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obama is an odd sort of Nazi sympathizer. Not just because the Nazis were as the name says, socialists, and obama is attempting to make America socialist.

But, also because he supports a nuclear Iran and Ahmadinejad has repeatedly stated his desire to remove Israel from the map.

History is attempting to repeat itself as the Nazi ovens to incinerate Jews in WWII become the Iranian nukes to incinerate Jews in Israel and obama shows no interest in stopping it.

14 posted on 06/05/2009 6:09:34 AM PDT by GBA
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To: DuncanWaring

While Jews were not the only ones incarcerated and murdered in the Holocaust, I do believe they were the single largest group targeted of all.

As even you say, it took all the other groups to total, or approach the numbers of Jews estimated murdered.


15 posted on 06/05/2009 6:25:13 AM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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Just to be realistic and hard-nosed, consider that our propaganda was directed to the sole objective of winning the war. Would publicizing the plight of Jews have enhanced what was already a complete national mobilization in the U.S.? Would it have encouraged our European allies and potential allies, many of whom were anti-Semitic to some degree, to fight harder? As for Eisenhower, without him and his troops, those camps might never have been liberated.


16 posted on 06/05/2009 6:28:35 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: DuncanWaring
The records on the numbers of people killed are imprecise, but odds are the Nazis killed at least as many Gentiles as Jews.

If you are talking sheer numbers, maybe. But if you are talking about a portion of the population, nobody suffered as much as the Jews. Not homosexuals, gypsies or anyone else.

However, there was a practical reason for the Allies downplaying references to the Jews as victims in the leaflets they dropped: the German populace had been subect to 12 years of 24/7 nazi propoganda painting the Jews as the evil cause of their problems. If you take the last eight years or so of enemedia Bush bashing and multiply it tenfold, you begin to get the idea. The American sheeple is still giving ObaMao a pass even though he owns the current recession and the nazi rule actually improved the German economy shortly after Hitler came to power.

17 posted on 06/05/2009 6:30:06 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: MrB
Which would make him 126 years old now.

How is he able to comment on BO’s trip now? Didn't he accompany BO on the trip? Who the hell is the guy that BO is talking about?

I really want to see Hussien’s family tree, because it would have to be one of the most twisted and dysfunctional families ever.

18 posted on 06/05/2009 6:36:02 AM PDT by Never on my watch (At least with Doctors I can get a second opinion. With 'Professional Journalists' there is only one)
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To: Never on my watch

I believe it’s an “uncle” that is commenting now,
and a “great uncle” who supposedly liberated Auchwitz.


19 posted on 06/05/2009 6:38:26 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: SJackson

I hope touring Buchenwald doesn’t give ‘resident Obama any ideas about ‘concentrating’ his political opposition.


20 posted on 06/05/2009 6:44:18 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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