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1 posted on 06/04/2009 5:30:28 AM PDT by CSM
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Michigan ping.


2 posted on 06/04/2009 5:30:48 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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Yeah, right. With the union in control? And the big concessions, dental for retirees? T must be quaking in their boots.


3 posted on 06/04/2009 5:32:32 AM PDT by steve8714 (Modern liturgy; touchy, feely, inane.)
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The Camry might lead the C/D class in sales for now, but will this continue? What happens when Americans actually consider a Malibu or Fusion-based product instead? In terms of design appeal, the Camry looks dowdy or boring (take your pick) and its reliability isn’t any better than the Fusion. Put a four-cylinder EcoBoost engine in that Fusion and Ford wins.

LMFAO!!!!! Yeah, the Camry is boring compared to the Fusion...


4 posted on 06/04/2009 5:33:59 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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I believe the term for this article is “irrational exuberance”. The truth is that Toyota has had an issue for decades with patriotic Americans who wanted to buy American even if the American product wasn’t as good (by whatever standards the buyer cared about) as the Toyota. That issue is gone. Forever. Toyota is now in a much stronger competitive position. Toyota’s real problem is that Americans are going to be cautious about all big ticket purchases, not that the “new” GM is going to excite either liberals who love their foreign cars or conservatives who despise socialism.


5 posted on 06/04/2009 5:35:37 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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well since I'll NEVER buy a GM or Chrysler and I just got a Toyota Corolla for the daughter... I'll tell you what they've done for me. Fully loaded with side airbags and reliable for a 5 year no interest and no money down.

I could have paid cash for it (like I do for all my rides) but for no interest and using 75 cent dollars to pay them back... I'm good.

Michigan can f#ck themselves as well as all the thugocrats and boot lickers in the UAW. Enjoy the scraps from the master's tables.

6 posted on 06/04/2009 5:36:06 AM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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Bad Management...check
Unions...check
Govt. involvement(enviro-car mandates)...check
Strong competition...check

Yeah, I bet Toyota and Honda are quaking in their boots today.


7 posted on 06/04/2009 5:36:35 AM PDT by ilgipper
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As long as taxes—>government—>GM—>UAW—>Democrats, the premise behind this article will fail.


8 posted on 06/04/2009 5:37:32 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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I think what the author has missed is that Toyota/Honda quality is higher than the competition. They have return buyers for cars essentially made in the US by Americans. In a Fiat an American car?? Would you by a car from the ChiComs?

I guess time will tell the tale.


9 posted on 06/04/2009 5:37:36 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine
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If Toyota (one of only a few American made cars) does fade into oblivion it will be because the UAW and their puppet obomba managed to steal GM and Chrysler. How does stealing GM and Chrysler put Toyota and Honda and Ford and all other automakers not owned by the jack booted thugs in Washington and in the Unions out of business you ask? By forcing legislation that will make it illegal for you to own anything but a GM or Chrysler. After all.... They are going to be building the cars America wants to drive right?!

Thats what happens when the communists take over don't you know!

10 posted on 06/04/2009 5:37:48 AM PDT by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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All I remember is the “K” car Chrysler put out years ago...

Practically a snot box on wheels...Thats all it was good for...

And we are headed back in that direction at full speed...


11 posted on 06/04/2009 5:38:21 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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I don’t know who this guy Elias is, but is he on crack?


12 posted on 06/04/2009 5:38:42 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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*snicker*
Is this straight from the Zer0Bambi' s lips.
...more tripe, from Government Motors.

13 posted on 06/04/2009 5:39:22 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid / deadly things happen... :^)
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Yep, it’s a bad day for Toyota and a great day for America. You can look forward to a new Detroit that will be competitive, if not lead, in cars and trucks for mass market Americans. Count on it.

Could this guy be any dumber?

14 posted on 06/04/2009 5:39:43 AM PDT by calex59
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What has Elias been smoking?

He’s buying the Obama spin.


16 posted on 06/04/2009 5:40:42 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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Ford may well compete with Honda and Toyota. However, the author makes a HUGE assumption here; that GM and Chrysler will compete using only the tools of capitalism. Being government owned, they may also choose to compete using the tax code, legal code, etc.

How does Ford sit down with it’s labor force, which owns competition, and get a fair deal?


17 posted on 06/04/2009 5:41:10 AM PDT by IamConservative (I'll keep my money. You keep the change.)
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As a former internal combustion powered, personal transportation vehicle sales consultant, I can smell auto press BS from across the room. I can’t wait to see the Government Motors designed Corvette.


19 posted on 06/04/2009 5:42:18 AM PDT by fortunate sun (Tell me what books you want to ban and I'll tell you what type of politics you hold.)
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I don’t agree with this analysis. I’ll consider buying a Ford, but I will never buy another GM car, out of principle.

Toyota (and Honda) have a lot of good will built up, for the good quality cars they have been producing. It will not be an easy matter for GM to take their customers away.

Jeannine


21 posted on 06/04/2009 5:43:27 AM PDT by jeannineinsd
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There’s zero change I’ll buy a GM or Chrysler car in the next ten years, and probably ever.


22 posted on 06/04/2009 5:44:06 AM PDT by DB
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who are they kidding.... Toyota, BMW, Honda, KIA, and others are celebrating. They know the US governments adventure will fail.


23 posted on 06/04/2009 5:44:56 AM PDT by martinidon
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Toyota and Honda have been totally QUIET on the issue, but I imagine that they are NOT afraid of a company run by the UAW and the US Government.

What they ARE afraid of is the Gov’ts next logical steps to help GM/Chrysler - limits on imports, forced unionization of Toyota/Honda US plants, political interference of all kinds.


24 posted on 06/04/2009 5:45:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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