Posted on 06/03/2009 2:09:39 PM PDT by wagglebee
I was shocked and dismayed when learning Kansas abortionist George Tiller had been murdered by a vigilante.
Tiller was a ghastly late-term abortionist, but he should not have been murdered, just as he should not have murdered 60,000 children throughout his years of practice. I pray for Tiller's soul. I pray also for Tiller's wife, four children and 10 grandchildren, not only for their tragic loss but also for the tragic legacy Tiller left behind.
It is falsely claimed Tiller was one of only three late-term abortionists in the U.S., for instance, in the New York Times:
Some described Dr. Tiller as one of about only three doctors in the country who had, under certain circumstances, provided abortions to women in their third trimester of pregnancy, and said his death would mean that women, particularly in the central United States, would have few if any options in such cases.
Apparently, it was Tiller himself who started it. According to The Guardian:
Tiller testified … that he owns one of only three clinics in the U.S. that perform late-term abortions, which are performed on foetuses that could survive outside the mother's womb.
Before I get to my point, I want to make another.
The third trimester begins at 28 weeks of pregnancy, when healthy babies have more than a 90 percent chance of surviving.
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And yet the abortionists hold this and rape as the reason for murdering over 3500 babies each day.
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Jill is a much better Christian than I am. Praying for this man would be equivalent to praying for the Devil himself IMHO.
Are there any restrictions on later term abortions in oh so proud Europe? Isn’t America freer in that regard?
I am almost certain you are correct.
Even the life-of-the mother exception is based on a canard (that you can save the mother by killing the child). I do not believe the risk to a mother in distress would be any less if the doctor performed a c-section, which would give the baby at least a chance at life. (Even if the baby doesn’t survive, it won’t have had it’s limbs torn off at the behest of its mother.)
And not just basic killing, but grizzly late term abortion killing. Most civilized countries in the world draw a line. For example, in Japan, where abortion has been legal since World War II, they aren't permitted after five months except to save the life of the mother. Period.
Even the convoluted ruling of Roe v. Wade allowed states to regulate or outlaw the procedure after the first trimester. Can you show me any woman who doesn't know she's pregnant after three months? After five?
You are correct. There are very rare cases in early pregnancy (when the baby is not yet viable) where the mother’s life can be saved, but these are nearly always discovered well before the third trimester.
As far as rape goes, it is estimated that between 3000 and 4500 rape victims are impregnated each year by their rapists. However, many of them DO NOT want to murder the baby simply because the father is a monster and even if they did, this DOES NOT explain the need for more than 3500 abortions PER DAY.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Revelation 3:16
If there is so much 'rape' and 'incest' going around why is no one ever prosecuted for it?
The high estimate is that there are about 90,000 forcible rapes per year, of these between 3 and 5 percent will result in pregnancies. Rates of incest are a lot harder to pin down and often end around the time the girl has her first period.
Why is it that the left is perfectly happy to execute the innocent victim of the most vicious crime against women, but would fight tooth and nail against executing the man who committed the crime?
His lutheran church was ELCA. Evngelical Lutheran Church of America. ELCA likes gays, women preachers, immorality, irresponisbility, and open communion.
My Lutheran Churches have been LCMS and WELS. LCMS say no gays, no women preachers, no immorality, and practices closed communion. WELS does all of these and also does not allow women to vote on church matters.
Killing babies at Christ Hospital? And these other so-called religious hospitals as well? Nearer my God to thee, I guess. Wait until they get their hands on old people.
Rape is aggressively prosecuted. I don’t get where you could even ask, “Why is no one ever prosecuted for it?” with a straight face.
I'm really getting tired of this drivel.
Shocked and dismayed? Like the rest of us, you're shocked and dismayed because of the repercussions of this on normal pro-life people.
But why don't you and the rest of the appointed pro-life spokespeople quit the blather that we all know is crap. The world is better off without this monster just like it's better off without Osama bin Laden, Adolph Hitler, and any other dictator/mass murderer you care to mention.
The gratuitous talking points don't fool anyone. Do you fool yourself?
I have been wrestling with this one and have come to the position that because this absolutely prevented at least one abortion it was justifiable. I do not support any vengeance angle, but if one believes that the unborn, including very late term babies, are innocent humans than even the Church would sanction lethal action.
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