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To: Ira_Louvin
“Observation is not a matter of faith.” [excerpt]
Do you believe that [colloquial] pond scum evolved into four legged land dwelling mammals?

Have you ever observed this happening?

Can you demonstrate it?

“Number 14 does address your point it states that direct observation of living forms and extinct forms indirectly observed from the fossil record support my assertion that there has been sufficient time to account for the diversity of life we see today.” [excerpt]
No. 14 is an explanation based on interpretation of historical evidence (not addressing the validity of said interpretation), and is not a demonstration.

In post 31 you made the forward looking assertion that micro+time=macro, and I asked you to provide a repeatable demonstration.

If you say that, ‘given enough time, micro evolution will lead to macro evolution’ and cannot and/or will not demonstrate it, your claim is only a statement of faith.

“What empirical evidence do you have to the contrary?” [excerpt]
I have not addressed any evidence that might contradict No. 14

“What do think the difference is between microevolution & macroevolution?” [excerpt]
Evolutionists define the words to have little to no difference in meaning.

They also assert that micro/macro is being observed.

However, what is being observed is constrained and does not fit their definition of micro. (contrary to what they say)

Like I said, it depends on who you allow to define the words and facts.

“Which of the 14 points do you have a problem with?” [excerpt]
We can deal with the 14 points once we deal with the lack of objectivity currently inherent to the poster of aforementioned points.
48 posted on 06/05/2009 8:21:24 PM PDT by Fichori
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To: Fichori

You are straying from the topic, and debating things that are not part of the theory of evolution

The pond scum question is a common misconception.

From the 14 points:

“While the origins of life are a question of interest to evolutionary biologist and frequently studied in conjunction with researchers from other fields such as geochemistry and organic chemistry, the core of evolutionary theory itself does not rest on a foundation that requires any knowledge about the origins of life on earth. It is primarily concerned with the change and diversification of life after the origins of the earliest living things”

As far as the entire microevolution vs macroevolution rabbit trail, I have asked you several times to explain your understanding of the difference between the two.

Microevolution and macroevolution are both forms of evolution so debating the differences does nothing as far as addressing the 14 points that make up the core of the Theory of Evolution.

Which of the 14 points do you have a problem with, and what evidence do you have to support your position?


49 posted on 06/05/2009 10:30:20 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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