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The Southern Baptist Convention is Finally 'Throwing in the Towel' on Government Schools
Exodus Mandate via Christian Newswire ^ | June 2, 2009 | Exodus Mandate

Posted on 06/02/2009 7:28:14 AM PDT by achilles2000

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To: achilles2000

Very interesting.

I’d really be interested in their biblical argument for their liberalism. Seriously, I would.

Especially the liberal view of man as “basically good”.


61 posted on 06/02/2009 10:57:45 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: achilles2000

“If Southern Baptists don’t do it, who will? If we don’t do it now, do we risk forever losing the opportunity to build schools for God’s glory and the future of our children, grandchildren and the land we love?”


The first question is either arrogance or ignorance, since the Christian school movement in churches, including Baptist churchs is 40+ years old.

I can name off the top of my bald head at least five comprehensive curriculumns for grades K-12 (and two having college level, too) that are used nationally and internationally, designed for Christian and home schools. And the Mennonites have excellent material through at least the eighth grade.

The SBC might be thinking of writing their own curriculumn so that bears the SBC logo, or something. It is unnecessary, in my opinion, since there is so much good material already out there, but the Convention has the right to create their own if they deem that best.


62 posted on 06/02/2009 11:02:12 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: achilles2000

Of course I wish them luck and it is nice to see them FINALLY start to take off their blinders.


63 posted on 06/02/2009 11:45:21 AM PDT by banalblues (God help us all.)
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To: banalblues

I might even start going back to church if the churches actually start living what they preach again.


64 posted on 06/02/2009 11:46:25 AM PDT by banalblues (God help us all.)
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To: John Leland 1789

I don’t think that it is really a comment about curriculum, although I agree with you that there is already a lot of good curriculum. Instead, I think that he is really doing is tipping his hand about what he is really thinking: that the SBC needs to help create a new “public school system” - public in the sense that it is open to everyone, but that is private and controlled by parents and pastors, not unions, bureaucrats, and politicians.


65 posted on 06/02/2009 11:50:20 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: banalblues

“Finally” is the operative word. Now, we need to see if churches outside the SBC start to take off the blinders.


66 posted on 06/02/2009 11:51:30 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: achilles2000

a new “public school system
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Atheistic Marxism would utterly collapse on the campuses of colleges and universities if youth came to college prepared to defend their faith and our nation’s founding principles.

Their atheistic Marxist professor would wither like the Wicked Witch of the West. “Help me! I’m melting!”


67 posted on 06/02/2009 12:43:20 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: achilles2000

And the choir said “Amen”.


68 posted on 06/02/2009 12:44:19 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Star Traveler

“Baptists to remove their children from government schools and, instead, give them a Christian education.”

Why would one expect a “Christian” education from a secular institution?

That part of their education should be done at home anyway.

The SBC can say whatever they like. Doesn’t mean all Southern Baptists agree with it or will support it.


69 posted on 06/02/2009 12:53:37 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Graybeard58; Star Traveler; kittymyrib
It was a sound policy then and in my opinion, still is.

Why?

70 posted on 06/02/2009 12:57:32 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: nina0113; scripter

haven’t they been throwing in the towel on government schools for the last ten years? i’ve read several articles throughout the years making this claim... i doubt this one will be the last... neither conservatives nor Christians will leave the almighty goverment schools in droves... it’s aaking too much... it’s too difficult... it will not happen... and the teachers’ untions and government school advocates know that... they have a strong hold on the masses through the school system...


71 posted on 06/02/2009 1:09:07 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: swmobuffalo

The ones that do get a Christian education will be better off for the decision...


72 posted on 06/02/2009 1:09:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: dixiebelle

“but will it eventually come under the “sole member” status of the SBC”

I don’t think so. The k-12 initiative will have to be undertaken by the churches independently. The SBC (institutionally) might help with getting out informatin on how to provide Christian education without having to go the route of the traditional “school” model, but beyond that and some curriculum support (which isn’t a necessity), I think the only real role for the Nashville Vatican is disseminatnig information and, especially, encouragement. More than anything else parents and churches need to know what is really happening, that there are affordable, easily implemented Christian education alternatives to govenrment schools, and that they have an obligation to act (not just complain).


73 posted on 06/02/2009 1:10:52 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Star Traveler

“The ones that do get a Christian education will be better off for the decision...”

This doesn’t answer my question. Seems lots of people have to dance around giving an answer.

I’ve seen any number of good Christian kids come out of public schools unscathed so to speak. I’ve also seen lots of kids come out confused thanks only to the total lack of parental involvement in their upbringing at home.

Same could be said for the much vaunted homeschooled.


74 posted on 06/02/2009 1:41:48 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: swmobuffalo

It will still be a better education than in the public school system.

You take the public schools and I’ll take the schools that the church is talking about... :-)


75 posted on 06/02/2009 1:50:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: achilles2000
The SBC needs to focus on newer educational models than traditional schools.

The ones that work so well today, cool. I do wonder how the founding fathers managed, most being self taught.

76 posted on 06/02/2009 2:03:21 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Star Traveler

“It will still be a better education than in the public school system.”

Major point for debate. However I have better things to do.


77 posted on 06/02/2009 2:38:32 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: TheZMan

How so? They haven’t ruined mine.


78 posted on 06/02/2009 2:45:32 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: itsahoot

The ones that work so well today, cool.

What is your point? Do you not understand mine, or do you think that the 19th century factory-model of a brick building with children periodically marching around to bells and teachers reinventing the wheel in every class every day is optimal?


79 posted on 06/02/2009 3:13:56 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: crusty old prospector

Like I said, not all, but most. NIV, stances regarding being under the Law, falling from grace, baptism, etc.


80 posted on 06/02/2009 3:38:54 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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