[oneamericanvoice]

Oh, grow up. I'm not offended by "sincere, honest debate". I've been a long time poster here. Your arrogant suggestion that perhaps I should keep to myself demonstrates your insincerity and dishonesty. Honesty is based on respect, and it is clear that you don't respect anyone else's opinion that differs with yours. If you don't like what I or anyone else post then why engage. It is easy to talk about being pro-life, and hold that as a philosophical position...... The governments that you mentioned were totalitarian. You are not living under, nor fighting totalitarianism. Have you ever lived under such a regime? I think not. I am a veteran (US Army) who has stood against totalitarian regimes. Hopefully that answers what I would do. But once I took off the uniform I didn't give up the fight for America and her values. I have logged over 700 rallies. I do two each week. What about you? My view on where the murder took place was based on hearing that he was at church. I believed that to mean in the worship area. I stand by what I said. The changers that Jesus drove out weren't in the vestibule or foryer. Have you ever seen the layout of an acient temple? Might be a good project. If you don't think Let's look at this a couple of other ways. What part of a church do you consider sacred? By your statement, it seems none. Do you think it was appropriate to worshipers, some might have been children, and some were probably elderly, to be forever scared by this act of violence? Some of these folks are fellow pro-lifers. They might not have agreed with Tiller. Heck, I'll bet that some didn't know who he was. So should they be punished for his evil? BTW, God decided after the flood that he would never do such a thing again. Are you the judge of which of man's laws to obey? So what have you done to protect the unborn? Do you wish to blow up clinics? Commit murder? Overthrow the government?

[srweaver]

My dear friend, you are the one being offensive. You have told me to grow up, called me arrogant, insincere, and dishonest as well as falsely accusing me of “baiting” you.

Thank you for your service in the Army.

You refused to divulge where you think it would have been less offensive for Tiller’s killer to act, but I reiterate that I don’t find buildings sacred, but people...for they are made in the image of God.

Perhaps we can have this discussion again in 35 years when 50,000,000 more innocent children have been legally slaughtered in this “non-totalitarian” regime.

THE PROTESTOR

The protester stood alone
On ground she felt should somehow be her own
It strangely wasn’t.

The authorities stood by
Oblivious to her cry
As the attacker drew ever near
His crime of violence to do.

Where could she run and hide
She tries
But there is nowhere else to go
She must remain.

In dark the knife won’t flash
But cuts as sure
And spills innocent blood upon the floor.

But just to die is not enough
She must be taken, ripped apart, limb by limb
Oh the callousness of him
Who does the deed.

But now its done
The property is clear
The protester is gone
Dismembered in a dumpster lying near.

Over and over this drama plays on
More and more of the innocent are gone
Sliently swept away
50,000,000 souls who’ve never seen the light of day.

Can no one hear their cry
Can no one feel their pain
Each time we suck their life, or let some greedy soul
Each member of the crowd must pay the toll
Spectators of a deed we might not choose
But to be involved we can’t refuse.

Silently we say “Yes”, take her away
Or rightfully we say “No” this cannot be
What will you choose, for choose you must
Will another die, or from the knife go free?

Steve Weaver

PS - What kind of “church” would offer communion to a baby killer? This was a question asked by my non-Christian friend.