FWIW I have NEVER advocated violence against abortion providers. NEVER. But I have on numerous occasions stated without hesitation my firm belief that Abortion is Murder and that people like Tiller are the worst sort of criminals. So when I express the thought that Abortion is Murder, I have to accept the consequences of my words and I would be the ultimate hypocrite if after calling Abortion murder, I turned around and soundly condemned someone who took those words to heart and sacrificed his own liberty to put an end to a holocaust.
FWIW, I have tried many times and I have never been able to come up with a Biblical justification for the American Revolution. Our founding fathers were biblically under the admonition of Paul to obey those who were in authority over them because the powers that were, were ordained of God. But then every single nation was founded by people who had rebelled or gone to war against other nations to secure their own power.
That being said, I do believe with all my heart that the American Revolution was fully ordained by God and that it was God's assertive will that the United States of America would be founded by the Godly men who acted on slim, if any, biblical grounds to rebel against a tyrannical government and to form a new union which, would ultimately promise to "Secure the blessings of liberty.... to our posterity."
Unfortunately that promise has been broken. Because that promise was broken, do we, as a people now have the right and duty to do all in our power to restore those promises? From a biblical viewpoint, I'd be inclined to say no and to accept the lot that God has dealt us. From a philosophical viewpoint, I would not be willing to lie down while the blessings of Liberty are willy nilly stripped from our posterity.
It is a difficult question.
But when it comes down to brass tacks, the only thing that can be said is:
There have been no late term abortions in Kansas since 5/31/09.
Who do we have to thank for that? If we thank God, then we would have to thank Roeder. Think about that one for a minute.
For me, all I can say is "Thank God there have been no late term abortions in Kansas since 5/31/09."
You may draw any other inference from that statement that you want.
I have been going over this a lot the past week, and I think I MIGHT have come up with a justification.
The colonial militias were legally within their rights to muster and store arms and ammunition. However, on April 19, 1775 the British came to seize the supplies of the Massachusetts Militia, this resulted in the Battles of Lexington and Concord.
What is important here is that, to this day, NOBODY can say for certain whether the British or Americans fired the first shot at the Battle of Lexington, therefore the Founding Fathers COULD justify the Revolution as defensive rather than rebellious and they were thus absolved of their obedience to George III. With this justification and the ongoing war against Americans, the Declaration of Independence was warranted.
That being said, I do believe with all my heart that the American Revolution was fully ordained by God and that it was God's assertive will that the United States of America would be founded by the Godly men who acted on slim, if any, biblical grounds to rebel against a tyrannical government and to form a new union which, would ultimately promise to "Secure the blessings of liberty.... to our posterity."
Unfortunately that promise has been broken. Because that promise was broken, do we, as a people now have the right and duty to do all in our power to restore those promises? From a biblical viewpoint, I'd be inclined to say no and to accept the lot that God has dealt us. From a philosophical viewpoint, I would not be willing to lie down while the blessings of Liberty are willy nilly stripped from our posterity.
Here is what I can come up with. With Roe v. Wade the government PERMITS abortion, but it does not MANDATE abortion and I think this is important. I believe there is a difference between a government allowing something to happen and actually doing it.
Here is a portion of the Declaration of Independence that I think is critical to this subject:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
The real question must be is the Government actually destructive or is it simply negligent in preventing the destruction? Because I THINK there is probably a crucial difference.
I think it is also important to realize that the United States DID NOT fight the Civil War to end slavery. The United States went to war because the southern states seceded and then started an armed rebellion by firing on Union troops. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation ONLY freed slaves in those states in rebellion, slavery was abolished by a Constitutional amendment, NOT the Civil War.