And are you seriously claiming that the depiction of blacks on the Our Gang films has the same merit as the depiction of blacks in Twain’s “Huckleberry Finn”? Aren't you playing the same game of moral equivalency that the left normally plays? Hustler and Venus de Milo are basically the same thing, too, right? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, after all, right?
Sorry, I don’t see how I have to take Spike Lee or anonymous film censors as unquestioned and inerrant arbiters of what is racist or what is not. If you have a case to make against this particular character in this particular film as being racist, please do so. Otherwise, I’ll take your peevishness as just your waving your “little red book” of PC censorship, Comrade.
So since nobody can be an unquestioned and inerrant arbiters of what is racist or what is not, there is no such thing as racism, right? Your post-modernist deconstruction of racism is flawless and you'd make a wonderful Marxist, Comrade.
As for that particular character in that particular film being racist, how much more evidence do you want than that entire episode (The Kid from Borneo) being banned from television for racist content?
Because it points out that Trickyricky posted the image specifically in response to my noting his reference to this character in the “Our Gang” film (specifically, the catchphrase “Yum-yum eat ‘em up”), not because he was trying to score some racist point against President Jughead.
Yes, a character from an "Our Gang" film that's been long banned because of concerns about racism and labeled "Obama's Uncle George" in response to a joke by a Polish politician about Obama's ancestry also widely seen as racist about. The foundation of the discussion is racist and the discussion itself is being built with timbers widely considered racist, yet it shouldn't be perceived as racist, right?
Oh my goodness! I said “President Jughead”! What a RACIST thing for me to say! I hope you don’t get a case of the vapors!
Out of curiosity, do you think this is racist?
>>> And are you seriously claiming that the depiction of blacks on the Our Gang films has the same merit as the depiction of blacks in Twain’s “Huckleberry Finn”? Aren’t you playing the same game of moral equivalency that the left normally plays? Hustler and Venus de Milo are basically the same thing, too, right? One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, after all, right? <<<
Are you suggesting that YOU should be taken seriously as an arbiter of what possesses artistic or literary merit? What are your credentials (aside from arrogance and a willingness to impugn the motives of others)? Your comparison of this Roach short to a pornographic magazine is both groundless and absurd. It’s obvious to me that you have not seen this movie, and are basing your judgements upon your personal ignorance and prejudice. How ironic.
“So since nobody can be an unquestioned and inerrant arbiters of what is racist or what is not, there is no such thing as racism, right? Your post-modernist deconstruction of racism is flawless and you’d make a wonderful Marxist, Comrade.”
Nonsense; since commissar-wannabes like you don’t bother to establish the credentials and bona fides of the authorities they use, I don’t see why I should take their apparent support of an argument seriously.
Viz. why should I care how Spike Lee defines “racist” in regards to film (especially since he idiotically claimed, years ago, that whether or not one could be defined as racist depends upon ones skin color)? What are his credentials? Why should I care about the judgements of nameless, anonymous corporate censors when they decide to take a particular film out of syndication? Why should I think their decision had merit? Do you have any idea what criteria they used when they made their decision?
Racism exists, but is this particular film promoting racism? Do you seriously expect me to take your word on that, especially since it is obvious to me you’ve not seen the film in question?
BTW, if you had any idea what the Marxist reaction to post-modernism has been in Europe and elsewhere, you would realize how silly your remarks about the two are.
“As for that particular character in that particular film being racist, how much more evidence do you want than that entire episode (The Kid from Borneo) being banned from television for racist content?”
Once again, you try to establish your position by relying upon nameless authorities who provide no basis for the making of their decision. One could just as easily say “Schoolboard Y banned ‘Huckleberry Finn’ for being racist, how much more evidence do you want?” Well, it could easily be that Schoolboard A is made up of fools and cowards, and should not be taken seriously as an arbiter of what is racist and what is not. It may just as easily be the case that the corporate censors are nitwits and spineless avoiders of controvery who caved in to some PC version of Mrs. Grundy. How could I know? You have provided no evidence either way.
“Yes, a character from an “Our Gang” film that’s been long banned because of concerns about racism and labeled “Obama’s Uncle George” in response to a joke by a Polish politician about Obama’s ancestry also widely seen as racist about. The foundation of the discussion is racist and the discussion itself is being built with timbers widely considered racist, yet it shouldn’t be perceived as racist, right?”
You really do live in your own world, don’t you? I responded to trickyricky’s post about “Uncle George” by writing “Ah, the Little Rascals/Our Gang. Good times!” (I know — how horrible of me to have fond memories of that perverted, racist film!). He responded to me by posting a still of “Uncle George” from the movie with the legend “Obama’s Uncle George.” I don’t pretend to know what he meant by that, and could really care less; for you to claim that it expresses some underlying racism either means that you possess some kind of long-distance telepathic ability or that you have some kind of ideological axe to grind. I think that the latter is more likely than the former. I also note that trickyricky didn’t start posting racist slurs until after you started badgering him for posting racist pictures. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he was trying to get your gander. Looks like it worked.
“Out of curiosity, do you think this is racist?”
Let’s see: juxtaposition of the countenance of President Jughead with images of BBQd ribs, watermelon, and a bucket of fried chicken. In my unexpert opinion I’d say YES, a highly charged racist message is being conveyed here; the “ladies” at the Inland Republican women’s group should hang their heads in shame. No irony on my part: that’s a pretty vile mailing.
Let’s play tit for tat: out of curiousity, do you think this is racist?
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=48572749
Watching “The Kid from Borneo” would take about 19 minutes of your time. Hardly a masterpiece of comedy, but it seemed quite funny when I saw it as a teenager. I hope watching it won’t make you faint. If you did watch it, at least you’d know who “Uncle George” was. As for me, the film doesn’t seem expressive of racism (except perhaps for someone’s comment that “Uncle George” “looks like a gorilla”). If I must take exception to anything in the film, it is that most of the slapstick humor toward the end of it is being made at the expense of an obvious simpleton (”Uncle George”). I didn’t find the fact that he was being abused very funny; his gluttony and the misunderstanding between him and the childen was amusing, though.