Posted on 05/30/2009 9:33:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Come on, my Republican friends, you can do better than this.
From Rush Limbaugh (who doesn't want the job) to Mike Steele (who wanted it until he got it) back to Dick Cheney?
Has anyone heard of new faces, new ideas, "change" — all the things Americans voted for overwhelmingly?
The fact that the president was rebuked by his own party in both the Senate and the House this week on the closing of Gitmo makes clear that there is a debate to be had in this country about terrorism: about where to keep suspected terrorists, and where and how to try them; about what to do with detainees no country will take, which is not exactly a reassuring reason for bringing them here.
I greatly admire the president for his principled views on torture and detention and the rule of law, but that doesn't mean I'm sure he's right. How could I be sure? How can anyone be sure of anything when dealing with men and women who at least might be determined to kill all our children and destroy everything we believe in?
Indeed, it is precisely because these are such serious, difficult and inherently uncertain questions that Dick Cheney is getting the attention he is. I know many smart and well-informed conservatives who firmly believe it was wiretapping and waterboarding that kept us safe for the last eight years. I'd like to say they're wrong, like a good screaming TV liberal, but how would I know, really? How do they?
Would we have gotten the same information without resorting to enhanced interrogation techniques? Would we have discovered as much if judicially approved warrants, based on standards of at least some objective "cause," had been required for those wiretaps?
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but for the record, the Pub party has had TOO LITTLE of Dick Cheney these past 20 yrs......
Ditto.When they talk about it its working.
“about where to keep suspected terrorists, and where and how to try them; about what to do with detainees no country will take, which is not exactly a reassuring reason for bringing them here.”
I thought that your hopey changie Obama-boy had all those answers Susan...isn’t that what this country overwhelmingly voted for? Why debate it, the ball is on your sides hands now...have your New Faced Obama-boy fix it. Don’t blame this on Dick, Mike and Rush.
Dick Cheney isn’t doing what he is doing because he is planning to run for President. He is doing it as a patriot who, like many of us, is watching his country go down the toilet and wants to do something about it.
Dear Susan Estrich,
Please stay with our own kind and leave us alone.
Cheney must be doing something right!
Amazing. She hits the nail on the head, then goes on to Monday-morning quarterback. Susan, you freakin' idiot, do you even think about what you are saying/writing?
Oh goody!
The latest poop from Susan Estrogen!
Dear Susan:
Get real. We like Limbaugh and Cheney. And Steele is a pretty much a new face to us; but he’s turning into the new faces you libtards are always trying to create and turn out to be big bombs.
Thank you; but we will keep Limbaugh and Cheney.
Yes, yes, yes! Agree completely.
Someone remind me, how many Clinton administration retreads has Obama appointed?
Cheney was the most effective administration spokesman for eight years. Nothing's changed.
Does not compute.
I find myself agreeing with Susan Estrich?
The fact that the president was rebuked by his own party in both the Senate and the House this week on the closing of Gitmo makes clear that there is a debate to be had in this country about terrorism: about where to keep suspected terrorists, and where and how to try them; about what to do with detainees no country will take, which is not exactly a reassuring reason for bringing them here.
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But apparently no debate to be had about fascism.
Hey Susan, here’s a clue; new ideas, new faces, change, those are liberal constructs.
Conservatism is about tradition and truth and the belief that living by those truths is sufficient.
Look at what “change” and “new idea” has got us as a country
Maybe you’ve had too much Koolaid.
Spin-a-lie continues. Obama only won by 7%, not exactly an overwhelming indicator that people merely wanted “change”.
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