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To: Talisker

Wow. Calling me liar because the facts got in your way of your absurd little argument. Seems like you are really open to questioning your views. You don’t deserve the time—but here’s the link to one of many consensus scientists acknowledging warming proceeds CO2.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=13

Only an utter buffoon would suggest that warming and co2 are definitely not interrelated. You have outed yourself as a kook.

My point here was never that agw is or is not occurring. Only that the evidence you cite is inconsistent with your conclusions. You are no better than Al Gore. You hear what you want to hear, and twist facts to a desired end. You are what you despise. Very sad indeed.


70 posted on 05/31/2009 2:22:55 PM PDT by melstew
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To: melstew
Wow. Calling me liar because the facts got in your way of your absurd little argument

No need to call you a liar. Your own words do that. A few of your past posts for everyone to read:

Are Volcanoes Melting Arctic?

June 30, 2008 9:35:01 PM EDT · 27 of 62

melstew to null and void

Absolutely amazing the lengths that people will go to hide from reality. Of course volcanos are causing the Arctic to melt. Isn’t it obvious? It couldn’t be the millions of tons of carbon. And the carbon and other GHG increases in the atmosphere? Obviously caused by Leperchaun dust. And, the increased rate of class 5 hurricanes is caused by super big dragon flies from the Bermuda Triangle. You’re implication that AGW is a vast left wing conspiracy reminds me of Hillary’s vast right wing conspiracy. You’re not Hillary are you?

Wake up and face reality. It appears that we are changing the climate. As long as dopes keep denying it, it gives guys like Al Gore a platform. Pathetic.

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Of course there is this wonderful gem of yours:

Gore calls for quick action on warming

May 5, 2008 4:04:29 PM EDT · 41 of 85

melstew to boomop1

I know I am going to get blasted for this—so let me first point out that: (1) Free Republic is my favorite website; and (2) I believe in the Republican party and spend countless hours to support conservative candidates. Less government is the best government. The media is liberal, and from Pelosi to Carville, and from MCauliffe to Harry Reid, they make my skin crawl. But, I believe my party is missing the boat on Climate Change. I went to an event for a group called PennFutures in Philly on Saturday—where Al Gore gave the same speech he gave in Columbus. I actually met the guy afterwords, and we spoke for a minute. There were indeed points in which he was off base—like the New Orleans comment—but the balance of his presentation made a strange amount of sense. He spoke of the end of oil, the climate change consensus, and the stress which increasing population has on the environment. His point was to conserve and to look at renewables. Now I remember Al Gore from 2000, and I remember what he did and what he said, and I will never be an Al Gore fan—but unfortunately he has gained the high ground on this issue, and unless our representatives stop burying their heads in the sand we are going to lose politically and perhaps pay a far greater price than that.

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This is a good one:

Google steps up eco-activism, will help flood Capitol switchboard

March 31, 2008 6:26:51 PM EDT · 12 of 37

melstew to trumandogz

The possibility of anthropogenic climate change is enough to concern any reasonable person who does not restrict his/her reading to Exxon/Heritage Foundation’s talking points. Just because climate change plays right into the hands of global socialists—doesn’t mean it isn’t real. Sure the likely effects have been exaggerated (or disregarded) by those with an agenda. But, you don’t raise greehouse gas in the atmosphere by 40%, watch temperatures increase by 1.5 degrees in a century, and bury your head in the sand. Google is well within its rights to support a cause it believes in—and unlike Exxon, it is not doing so for personal gain. Good job Google.

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I think everyone should enjoy your posting history. The only thing that is striking in your argumentative style is ad hominem attacks. Have you really read any of the books you claim? Do you have even a smidgen of understanding of why "boundary theory" is important to the veracity of your beliefs? Why do you feel the need to attack everyone who disagrees with you without offering a single logical counter claim?

Seems like you are really open to questioning your views.

This sure sounds like projection based on your posting history.
73 posted on 05/31/2009 3:53:08 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: melstew
...absurd little argument... You don’t deserve the time... utter buffoon... kook... no better than Al Gore... twist facts... are what you despise... Very sad...

Wipe the spit off of your lips and take a breath. Beside your filthy mouth, you've deliberately misrepresented my position while slandering me. That makes you a bald-face liar for the second time.

Then go read this: CO2 Rises AFTER Warming

Your phrase "consensus science" says it all - you belong to a collectivist political mindset that believes truth can be established by consensus, and that people who demand facts rather than opinions, and data rather than summaries, and call people on lies, should be slandered and shouted down, rather than respectfully answered.

Your scornful shrieking in the face of being caught in your indefensible lies sums you up perfectly - and your rape of science.

78 posted on 05/31/2009 5:48:26 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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