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Wolves becoming an even larger problem for ranchers
Swift ^ | May 21, 2009 | Heather Smith Thomas

Posted on 05/29/2009 8:43:01 PM PDT by george76

Ranchers in the Lemhi Valley of Idaho have suffered increased losses from wolf depredation, as wolf numbers expand. Allen Bodenhamer, who raises cattle near Baker, ID lost three calves this past spring. At first he thought the kills were made by coyotes, then realized he was dealing with wolves.

“When coyotes kill a calf they get hold of the back of the neck and basically strangle it. They usually don’t start eating on it while it is still alive. A wolf grabs it by the top of the back or just in front of the hips and is eating on it while the poor animal is still struggling around trying to get away.”

Simonson said that after wolves kill an animal, the first thing they want to do is chew on the ball joints when they get it apart. We could see teeth marks all over those joints where they had been chewing.”

“My neighbor said trappers told him that when the wolves hear the airplane coming they lie right down under the sagebrush and won’t move – and are really hard to see. They’ve watched the wolves do that,” says Bodenhamer.

During calving season, he and his wife are out checking cows every hour.

“For those wolves to come in between those checks with our spotlights, they must have figured out our pattern. It certainly amazed me,”

“The wolves are coming very close to humans.”

“After the wolves have been in your cows they are all stirred up and hard to handle; if you try to move them all they want to do is chase your dogs,” says Mulkey. The cattle are also very nervous and restless and don’t spend much time grazing; calf weights are lighter in the fall.

(Excerpt) Read more at tsln.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Idaho; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; banglist; hunting; ranchers; sss; wolf; wolfdepredation; wolves
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1 posted on 05/29/2009 8:43:02 PM PDT by george76
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To: Myrddin; jazusamo; GladesGuru; girlangler; Grammy; proud_yank; Jeff Head; SierraWasp; rellimpank; ..
A few weeks ago I saw 150 elk behind my ranch and the wolves must have been after them because they were lined out and traveling fast, with their tongues hanging out.
2 posted on 05/29/2009 8:49:46 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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I won’t say the county but there is a ranching county where every rancher has the same gun, if they have to investigate a wolf killing, they’re going to have to check all of them.


3 posted on 05/29/2009 9:02:14 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: tiki

The ranchers should consider raising kangals, anatolians, or caucasian ovcharkas. These dogs love to kill wolves and are very good at it - persistent, too.


4 posted on 05/29/2009 9:06:53 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: george76

I was up in Wyoming teaching a concealed carry class recently. This was confirmed by several ranchers. Additionally, the sheep ranchers are having a tough time with the magpies - they pick out the eyes of the newborn lambs. Maybe we need some old-ladys-in-the-city-parks midnight cat feeders up there to solve the problem. It wouldn’t be right to kill anything, don’t ya’ know?


5 posted on 05/29/2009 9:14:24 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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From the Article >> I don’t know how we are going to get rid of them, I have my field glasses and rifle with me every day.

Who’s that, the wolves or the do-gooders?


6 posted on 05/29/2009 9:19:42 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: QBFimi

Many family ranchers are getting killed financially.

Ecos get federal grazing allotments vacated.

Sierra Club lawyers run up the ranchers legal bills.


7 posted on 05/29/2009 9:30:52 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Go to savetheelk.com. It has a gruesome slide show with 48 slides. Apparently wolves can determine does and cow elk that are pregnant. They have a technique for pulling those animals down to get at the unborn fetus, which they seem to have a particular preference for.

One wolf grabs the prey by the nose. The others eat their way into the animal from the rear or go in through the rear of the stomach. They eat the fetus and frequently leave the rest of the animal. A particularly cruel aspect to the way wolves kill is that they make no effort to kill prey before they begin to eat it.

When this is pointed out to the save the wolves freaks they simply deny it, claiming that those slides showing animals that were killed and the body left to rot deliberately ignore the fact that the wolves return to finish eating the dead animal.

I know too many people who spend lots of time in the mountains here hunting or scouting before the season opens. They see many abandoned, undevoured bodies, so the save the wolf freaks are simply liars.

The herds here in Western Montana have been severely depleted by wolves, but FWP people and university egg heads deny this. There will be fewer tags issued next season and save the wolves freaks will be pleased because they do not want people hunting. They are ant-gun but too smart to come out and say it in this pro-gun state. Creeps.


8 posted on 05/29/2009 9:34:49 PM PDT by SkipW
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Many eco watermelon types want to empty much of the west of people to re-wild many states.


9 posted on 05/29/2009 9:42:44 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: tiki

Ted Turner dreams of eco lodges where working homesteads once existed.

With a near by private jet airport for his Hollywood pals...


10 posted on 05/29/2009 9:44:39 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The wolf reintroduction thing has gotten completely out of control. The animal rights and enviro nutjobs have convinced enough people including Dept of Interior and state fish & game depts that the wolf is part of the ecosystem and they belong here, that’s bunk.

We got along without them just fine for well over fifty years. There are more than enough hunters to keep game numbers under control and the wolf just causes trouble for ranchers.

If enviros want to see and live with wolves they can got to Canada or Alaska and live in the wilderness with them, there are plenty there but those enviros want a 30 minute drive out of towns in the Northwest to interact with them.


11 posted on 05/29/2009 10:00:57 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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Plus these are imported , much larger than American, wolves.

Next, the ecos will complain that corporate feed lots using corporate drugs are the only source of their food ( no free range beef ).


12 posted on 05/29/2009 10:10:36 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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A couple months ago a wolf was found dead just north of Craig. This is disturbing because this area is prime elk country and it doesn't take long for a few wolves to destroy an elk population.

The consensus is lead poisoning, but this is a case of those who know aren't talking, and those that are talking don't know.

13 posted on 05/29/2009 10:59:12 PM PDT by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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To: SkipW

“There will be fewer tags issued next season and save the wolves freaks will be pleased....”

What is the bag limit on the freaks?


14 posted on 05/29/2009 11:21:35 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: george76
A relative made a donation in my name to a nut group. Now I get constant emails to send them money to save one animal or another. They have the propaganda machine going full-force.

The below is a SINGLE email.

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Dear Dumbass Donor:

We've seen appalling new images of Governor Sarah Palin's cruel war on wolves -- pictures Palin would never want seen on a postcard from Alaska:
* Wolf carcasses skinned and stacked in piles in the woods;
* Dead wolves riddled with buckshot and lying bloody in the snow;
* Sarah Palin's hired killers smiling and posing in front of an airplane loaded down with recently slaughtered wolves.

You can help expose Palin's brutal, senseless killing of Alaska's wolves.Your contribution will help Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund keep the national spotlight on Palin's barbarism, lobby for federal legislation to end this awful wolf killing program and protect wolves and other imperiled wildlife.

Please make a secure donation online now at:

On June 6th, we have a unique chance to reach more citizens and media about the Palin carnage. She is scheduled to be in Auburn, New York to celebrate 50 years of Alaska statehood and New Yorker William Seward's 1867 purchase of Alaska -- a purchase then known as "Seward's Folly."

With your donation, we'll make sure that more caring people learn the truth about Sarah's Palin's own folly -- an expensive, unscientific and horrific wolf-killing program that has already massacred more than 1,000 wolves.

Please donate now:

To place the next round of Eye on Palin television ads in this New York market, we need to raise $75,000 by next Monday (June 1st). Can you send what you can afford?

The gruesome images described above are just the tip of the iceberg.

After Palin's henchmen executed 14 poor pups last summer -- with a shot each to the head -- and more than 250 wolves were killed during the recently concluded 2008/2009 aerial gunning season, Palin's administration is resorting to even more extreme tactics to kill wolves.

This summer, poison gas bombs will be thrown into dens and snares will be set at the mouths of dens to kill off newborn pups and to prevent wolf numbers from increasing.

Extreme wolf-killing programs like these are already having a devastating effect on wolf populations. National Park Service wolf population estimates indicate that 100% of the wolves in the Upper Yukon/Tanana predator control region (near the Yukon Charlie Rivers National Wildlife preserve) were killed over the winter, with 133 wolves killed by aerial gunning and another 80 expected to be trapped.

Don't let Palin and her trophy hunting cronies get away with it. Please donate now to help save the lives of wolves targeted by Palin's brutal programs. Please donate now:

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With Gratitude,

P.S. We need to make our media buys to expose Palin's wolf aerial killing very soon. Please make a secure donation online now or call 1-800-425-4632 to make a donation by phone.

15 posted on 05/29/2009 11:54:43 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Putin warned Obama not to pursue Marxism. Obama has ignored him.)
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To: george76

What used to blow my mind when I lived in the Rockies were people who would make a big deal about saving wolves, antelope, prairie dogs and seals, yet let their cats decimate the bird population round their homes.


16 posted on 05/30/2009 3:13:34 AM PDT by paristwelve
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S. S. & S.


17 posted on 05/30/2009 4:49:12 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: george76; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Re: Wolves becoming an even larger problem for ranchers

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18 posted on 05/30/2009 6:46:01 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: george76

This is like farmers complaining about the weather.

Leave an iPod on the front seat your car when you’re parked in the far south side of Chicago and see what happens.


19 posted on 05/30/2009 8:02:39 AM PDT by glorgau
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There is a rumor that Muslims think elk are another form of goat. Seen any turban wearers in the fields, lately?

;-)


20 posted on 05/30/2009 8:46:00 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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