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The secret fuel that made the Spitfire supreme
Royal Society of Chemistry ^
| 13 May 2009
| Brian Emsley
Posted on 05/29/2009 5:03:39 PM PDT by neverdem
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Better living & surviving through chemistry!
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:03:39 PM PDT
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
Wow. Another piece of the puzzle of how the Brits won the battle of Britain (if it’s true).
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:10:13 PM PDT
by
saganite
(What would Sully do?)
To: neverdem
100-octane fuel has never been a secret.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:14:07 PM PDT
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
To: saganite
It’s true. 100/130 octane aviation gasoline was one of the U.S. secret weapons that neither Germany nor Japan could produce on a mass basis.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:14:53 PM PDT
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
(Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
To: 2banana
Another little non-secret secret is that U.S. chemists from American oil companies analyzed the fuels captured from downed German Messerschmitts and Jap zeros, and provided that info to the Army Air Corps and U.S. Navy so that our pilots could have yet another small advantage over the enemy in combat.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:17:20 PM PDT
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
(Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
To: neverdem
And if we would have given them our crap gas today with ethanol in it, they would have been sitting ducks and speaking German in no time flat.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:21:04 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: neverdem
Nowadays they’d be forced to use a 15 percent ethanol blend—to save the earth, of course.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:21:57 PM PDT
by
Mr Ramsbotham
("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
To: neverdem
In 1987 had a 64 Lincoln Continental that required 99 octane. I could run it on 93 by retarding the timing, but it was a slug. A couple of times I was able to put aviation gas in it and it ran like a scalded monkey. Man that was fun. However, at 8 miles to the gallon, and the nearest airport 60 miles away, it was a pretty rare occurence.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:22:13 PM PDT
by
fini
To: neverdem
The secret was ...
White Lightnin!!!’
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:22:38 PM PDT
by
Mr. Jazzy
(No greater friend, no worse enemy -The United States Marine Corps.)
To: neverdem
More octane, crank in a few more degrees of timing and make more power. Pretty basic racing info. The British must have just not had the technology to produce the fuel.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:23:14 PM PDT
by
Clay Moore
(Obama: A good example of why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
To: neverdem
I ran across this story thirty years ago.
The secret to winning the Battle of Britain - tetraethyl lead.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:23:14 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Sure the higher octane helped but the Spitfire was a flat better designed airplane and the Hurricane was rugged as hell.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:24:43 PM PDT
by
colorado tanker
("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
To: neverdem
I have had the opportunity to hear a Spit engine a couple of times.
Once heard, you never forget it. Beautiful aircraft.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:24:56 PM PDT
by
alarm rider
(Any country that tells you what light bulb to use is not a free country.)
To: 2banana
100-octane fuel has never been a secret.
True. Jimmy Doolittle showed the advantages of it in the 1930s while working for Shell.
To: Mr Ramsbotham
Toward the end of the war, the Germans actually used ethanol to fuel their fighters. Worked pretty well...but not well-enough.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:28:53 PM PDT
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
(Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
To: Secret Agent Man
they would have been sitting ducks and speaking German in no time flat.
Actually, they would be dead.
Putting alcohol in aviation fuel = crash landing all of the time.
Its why we can’t use a Mogas cert anymore for our aircraft.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:31:37 PM PDT
by
bill1952
(Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
To: neverdem
Well, that is all well and good, but what kind of ‘carbon footprint’ did those things leave? Hmmmm? No wonder we have had global warming ever since. :-))
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:31:55 PM PDT
by
mc5cents
(Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
To: neverdem
OH NO!!!! Demon petroleum helped save the free world?
What will the moonbat environmentalists think now?
Probably just ignore it.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:33:45 PM PDT
by
DakotaRed
(Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I have read extensively on WWII, especially as regards the air war since I’m a pilot (Air Force) and I don’t recall ever seeing that fact. Just goes to show, you’re never too old to learn.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:34:32 PM PDT
by
saganite
(What would Sully do?)
To: neverdem
It obviously helped. But the Germans were operating on constrained fuel (and thus reduced combat time) reserves anyway, because of having to cross the Channel, as well as being up against the determination of British, American and Polish pilots who knew they were the only thing standing between the Nazis and full invasion. You put anyone’s back to the wall - watch out.
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posted on
05/29/2009 5:39:16 PM PDT
by
Talisker
(When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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