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Cheney an Unlikely Beacon for Conservatives
National Review ^ | May 29, 2009 12:00 AM | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/29/2009 6:23:55 AM PDT by fiodora

It’s a lovely thing when the conventional wisdom proves to be so spectacularly wrong. The entire Democratic party, not to mention the media establishment, simply took as a given that suave, charming, effulgent, numinous president Barack Obama would mop the floor with grumpy, truculent, sardonic former vice-president Dick Cheney. And yet, on almost every issue he has championed since he left office, Cheney has won the debate or at least put the White House on the defensive. From the closing of Gitmo and the placement of terrorists in domestic prisons, to the release of the torture memos and the aborted release of prisoner-abuse photos, Cheney holds the higher ground politically, or in the polls, or both.

Many liberals who take it on faith that Cheney represents all that is evil, cruel, and unhip about the Republican party, not to mention carbon-based life forms, are loath to give him even an ounce of credit for his success. That Obama is backpedaling or off-balance on so many fronts, they say, is at best circumstantial evidence that Cheney is having any effect. Well, you know, Thoreau was right: “Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk.” The trout in Obama’s milk is the trout fisherman from Casper, Wyo.

There are profound lessons to be learned here. An easy one is that the Bush policies Democrats relentlessly demonized were hardly as extreme, politically or morally, as they alleged. If Bush’s anti-terror policies were half as bad as Obama & Co. claimed, the American people and Congress would reject them all wholesale, and Cheney’s arguments would sound like the ravings of a madman. That hasn’t happened.

But the more important lesson, at least for conservatives and Republicans, is that arguments matter. If personalities and politics alone drove the issues, then of course flannel Cheney would lose against silky Obama. But it turns out that substance is a good counterpunch to style.

That’s worth remembering as the GOP figures out how to deal with Obama’s nomination of Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court. Conservatives think she’s wrong on the merits, and even though they will almost surely fail to block her confirmation, there’s no reason for them to be ashamed of their stance. If liberals want to call conservatives racist or sexist for opposing the first Hispanic female nominee to the court, conservatives should patiently explain that they wouldn’t want to insult her with the soft bigotry of low expectations. After all, if Sotomayor were a rich white male with exactly the same views and philosophies, you can be sure conservatives would oppose her just as vigorously.

But the lesson runs deeper than the impending Sotomayor battle. Conventional wisdom also tells us that the GOP needs to become more inclusive. On this score the conventional wisdom is right, if by “inclusive” you mean getting more people to join the party and vote Republican. But many people mean something else by “inclusive.” They think the GOP needs to become the Pepsi to the Democrats’ Coca-Cola, indistinguishable save for small matters of taste and marketing.

The conventional wisdom holds that conservatism is in trouble because the GOP is in trouble. But the two are not one and the same. Indeed, the GOP’s conservative principles aren’t necessarily the main reason for its unpopularity. Arguably, Republicans’ failure to adhere to their principles when in power hurt them more. The most recent Pew Research Center report on “Trends in Political Values and Core Attitudes” finds that 37 percent of Americans describe themselves as conservative, while only 19 percent describe themselves as liberal. And conservative principles are still competitive, even after eight years of Bush, a staggering recession, and the most popular Democratic president in nearly a half-century. A majority of respondents say the “federal government controls too much of our daily lives” and that “government regulation of business usually does more harm than good.”

Obviously, the GOP is not in an enviable position. But conservatives have been in worse shape countless times before. What they have done each and every time is argue their way forward. Goldwater, Reagan, and Gingrich each mounted conservative victories by making arguments for their cause.

The cliché is that politics is about “addition,” and the GOP needs to add more Hispanics, or gays, or women to its coalition, as if such descriptors define people more than their individual aspirations. Republicans will never win that fight, nor should they try to out-bean-count the Democrats. Persuasion should trump the pandering of “addition.” Conservatives must argue why they are right, not endlessly apologize for their alleged wrongs.

And the surest way to lose that argument is by failing to even try to make it. If anything, conservatives owe Dick Cheney gratitude for demonstrating that.


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Jonah Goldberg:

... But the more important lesson, at least for conservatives and Republicans, is that arguments matter. If personalities and politics alone drove the issues, then of course flannel Cheney would lose against silky Obama. But it turns out that substance is a good counterpunch to style.

...  Conventional wisdom also tells us that the GOP needs to become more inclusive. On this score the conventional wisdom is right, if by “inclusive” you mean getting more people to join the party and vote Republican. But many people mean something else by “inclusive.” They think the GOP needs to become the Pepsi to the Democrats’ Coca-Cola, indistinguishable save for small matters of taste and marketing.

The conventional wisdom holds that conservatism is in trouble because the GOP is in trouble. But the two are not one and the same. Indeed, the GOP’s conservative principles aren’t necessarily the main reason for its unpopularity. Arguably, Republicans’ failure to adhere to their principles when in power hurt them more. The most recent Pew Research Center report on “Trends in Political Values and Core Attitudes” finds that 37 percent of Americans describe themselves as conservative, while only 19 percent describe themselves as liberal. And conservative principles are still competitive, even after eight years of Bush, a staggering recession, and the most popular Democratic president in nearly a half-century. A majority of respondents say the “federal government controls too much of our daily lives” and that “government regulation of business usually does more harm than good.”

Obviously, the GOP is not in an enviable position. But conservatives have been in worse shape countless times before. What they have done each and every time is argue their way forward. Goldwater, Reagan, and Gingrich each mounted conservative victories by making arguments for their cause.

The cliché is that politics is about “addition,” and the GOP needs to add more Hispanics, or gays, or women to its coalition, as if such descriptors define people more than their individual aspirations. Republicans will never win that fight, nor should they try to out-bean-count the Democrats. Persuasion should trump the pandering of “addition.” Conservatives must argue why they are right, not endlessly apologize for their alleged wrongs.

And the surest way to lose that argument is by failing to even try to make it. If anything, conservatives owe Dick Cheney gratitude for demonstrating that.


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21 posted on 05/29/2009 8:14:47 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: McGruff

Wonderful caption!


22 posted on 05/29/2009 8:16:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Tyranny is always whimsical." Mark Steyn 3/9/2009)
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To: svcw
bushy2 has vote "present" and has refused to comment on uh-bama. bushy2 has chosen to continue his support of liberalism at the cost of America's freedom.

Thank God for Dick Cheney for standing up to the tyranny of uh-bama's communism.

23 posted on 05/29/2009 8:19:46 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: fiodora
"...The most recent Pew Research Center report on “Trends in Political Values and Core Attitudes” finds that 37 percent of Americans describe themselves as conservative, while only 19 percent describe themselves as liberal...."

That 20% of the electorate thinks of itself to the left of Kennedy, Obama and the NYTimes, which are self-described as "moderate" is troubling indeed...

24 posted on 05/29/2009 8:50:02 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (John Adams: Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate)
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To: Tolik

“But abandoning the info-war to hostile media is patently suicidal.”

Yep, and the suicide was successful. :(

Bush was absolutely the worst communicator I have ever see in a president.


25 posted on 05/29/2009 8:51:02 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: McGruff

... If looks could kill

26 posted on 05/29/2009 8:58:00 AM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: tophat9000

bttt


27 posted on 05/29/2009 8:59:26 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: EEDUDE

That he was a bad communicator is only half of the problem. I don’t expect all *doers* to be perfect *talkers* as well. (In a perfect world people should take a humble doer over a shallow but shiny orator any time of the day - alas, we don’t live in a perfect world). But he did not even recognize this shortcoming enough to compensate for it with a team effort or designated really good communicator. Ari Fleisher and Tony Snow were OK, and a treacherous bastard was a joke, but anyway a press secretary is not a high level cabinet post. And he could not count, of course, on the media to do the work for him, only the opposite, and with gusto.


28 posted on 05/29/2009 10:43:00 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: fiodora
Obviously, the GOP is not in an enviable position. But conservatives have been in worse shape countless times before. What they have done each and every time is argue their way forward. Goldwater, Reagan, and Gingrich each mounted conservative victories by making arguments for their cause.

The cliché is that politics is about “addition,” and the GOP needs to add more Hispanics, or gays, or women to its coalition, as if such descriptors define people more than their individual aspirations. Republicans will never win that fight, nor should they try to out-bean-count the Democrats. Persuasion should trump the pandering of “addition.” Conservatives must argue why they are right, not endlessly apologize for their alleged wrongs.

And the surest way to lose that argument is by failing to even try to make it. If anything, conservatives owe Dick Cheney gratitude for demonstrating that.

Jonah uses the terms "republican" and "conservative" as interchangeable nouns. They are not and that is the fatal flaw in laying the foundation of his argument.

29 posted on 05/29/2009 10:53:18 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Powell/Whorealdo 2012- The New GOP Dream Ticket)
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To: TADSLOS

He says exactly that. Try reading the thing.


30 posted on 05/29/2009 11:01:20 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

I read it. You read it again. I agree with his premise and I agree that Cheney is showing the way, but his interchanging of terms makes it read as though conservatives won’t fight. Liberal republicans won’t fight their liberal democrat friends. That’s the problem. Grassroots conservatives want to see republican “conservatives” fight for principle. They won’t.


31 posted on 05/29/2009 11:08:58 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Powell/Whorealdo 2012- The New GOP Dream Ticket)
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To: TADSLOS
"The conventional wisdom holds that conservatism is in trouble because the GOP is in trouble. But the two are not one and the same."

Conservatives outside the party are impotent, malcontents who accomplish nothing. There are plenty of "grassroots" conservatives in the GOP who fight everyday. Get out of your basement.

32 posted on 05/29/2009 11:21:07 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
Conservatives outside the party are impotent, malcontents who accomplish nothing

You mean as opposed to signing on to Bailout legislation, No Child Left Behind, Shamnesty, Compassionate Conservatism, Straight Talk, Homo and Hip Hop outreach while enjoying a slide into the abyss of irrelevance? LOL!

Yeah, party hacking is serving you so well these days isn't it? How does it feel to be part of a compliant, losing opposition party to hard core liberals? Enjoy your denial fantasy.

33 posted on 05/29/2009 11:42:20 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Powell/Whorealdo 2012- The New GOP Dream Ticket)
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To: TADSLOS
My party is the only vehicle capable of doing anything and I'm proud to hack for it until we can fill it up with enough true believers to save this country.

You Flying Monkeys spend your days examining what you pick out of your butts.

34 posted on 05/29/2009 11:51:14 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Go take a Midol and post some GW photos. You’ll feel better.


35 posted on 05/29/2009 11:54:24 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Powell/Whorealdo 2012- The New GOP Dream Ticket)
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To: TADSLOS

Geez, that was weak. Close your robe...you’re drawing flies.


36 posted on 05/29/2009 12:00:15 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

At least I’m drawing something, as opposed to the feckless GOP.


37 posted on 05/29/2009 12:05:27 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Powell/Whorealdo 2012- The New GOP Dream Ticket)
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To: Tolik
The cliché is that politics is about “addition,” and the GOP needs to add more Hispanics, or gays, or women to its coalition, as if such descriptors define people more than their individual aspirations. Republicans will never win that fight, nor should they try to out-bean-count the Democrats. Persuasion should trump the pandering of “addition.” Conservatives must argue why they are right, not endlessly apologize for their alleged wrongs.

Goldberg's right on this ... Is there a Johah ping list? If there is - I want ON.

38 posted on 05/29/2009 1:29:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: billhilly

“This is one of Jonah’s best in my opinion.”

Ditto.


39 posted on 05/29/2009 4:34:33 PM PDT by StatenIsland
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