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To: HungarianGypsy

Maybe it says that his name is Barack Hussein.


10 posted on 05/27/2009 5:01:46 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Or his birth certificate lists NO father.

Or possibly lists someone other than Barrack H. Obama as the father.

There are other reasons to doubt his eligibility. His enrollment at Occidental and Columbia University may show him listed as a foreign exchange student.

His passport info from his trip to Pakistan in his youth, when U.S. citizens were not allow to enter Pakistan.

Lots of other questions.

We simply do not know what his “real” name is.


15 posted on 05/27/2009 5:08:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Brilliant; BenLurkin; HungarianGypsy; gussiefinknottle; cycle of discernment; y6162; petercooper
Friends, I am very afraid that the Birth Certificate issue is a very red, very smelly herring, and that we are being set up for a sting. The Constitution says "Natural Born Citizen," and that's not a matter of location, but of immediate antecedents. Eventually, this fellow will show up with a Birth Certificate showing he was born on US Soil. Not the point. Not "Natural Born."

Lemme sum this up:

1) There is no doubt that one Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is an American citizen under current US law and practice.

(2) There is no doubt that Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is clearly

NOT a "Natural Born Citizen"
as required by the US Constitution.

(3) The Constitution makes this requirement, but without delineating exactly what a "Natural Born Citizen" is, depending upon English Common Law, very familiar to the framers, since most were British Lawyers.

(4)Neither did the Constitution establish any standard, or authority for its enforcement. If it's not in the Constitution, it is left to the states. And so far, no state has governing statutes.

(5)Through this capacious loophole walked one Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama, the illegitimate son of a an American mother and a father who was a subject of the British crown... right into the White House.

(6) Since the SCOTUS declined the opportunity to define this issue, and rightly so, it is unlikely that Glenn Beck or anyone else can do anything about it on the radio.

(7) OTOH, you can. Work with your state legislature to pass a STATE law requiring Presidential candidates to provide documentary evidence of eligibility before being placed (a) on the state's official ballot, and (b) before the electors of that state give any candidate the electoral votes of that state. That can be done before the election of '12. That is what the Electoral College is supposed to do: weigh a Presidential candidate's worthiness for office and cast their votes accordingly. Technically speaking, we do not have a popularly elected President.

(8)And while you're about it, agitate for repeal of the 17th Amendment and try to redress the terrible imbalance between State and federal government that has bent our democratic republic beyond the framers' recognition. All of this hoop-la-la about the place of the Omessiah's birth and his Birth Certificate is a distraction. Sleight of hand. Mis-direction. Now-you-see-it, now-you etc. etc.

Again: Obama is not a "Natural Born Citizen" because his father was not a citizen. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was many things, A drunkard, a polygamist, a bad driver, a wife beater, a Muslim, an economist of sorts, but not an American Citizen. It really doesn't matter what Jr.'s Birth Certificate says, or where he was born.

Barack, Sr. was born a subject of King George, lived as a subject of Queen Elizabeth, and died a citizen of Kenya. Barack Jr.'s mother was a Natural Born American Citizen. Young Barack Jr. was therefore a dual citizen at birth, of the UK and of the United States, and that would be true if he were born in Hawaii, Vancouver, Kenya, or Hope, Arkansas.

The reason this has to be handled at the state level is that that's where it belongs. If even one state with three electoral votes demands documentation, the cat is out of the bag and there's no more pettifoggery about "standing to bring suit." Every citizen in that state will have it.

If Obama then chooses not to comply, so be it. He will lose that state's electoral votes and cast a pall over whatever term he manages to win. If he chooses to fight up to the high court, then the SCOTUS will have the role of interpreting the "Natural Born Citizen Clause." Be very interesting!

There is no doubt that BHO, Jr. is not a "Natural Born Citizen." The trick is to legally force him to admit it!
Right now? Ain't no way. Sorry!

42 posted on 05/27/2009 6:11:16 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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