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Ted Olson goes to court on behalf of gay marriage
Washington Examiner ^ | 5/26/9 | Byron York

Posted on 05/27/2009 12:30:07 AM PDT by BCrago66

Former Bush administration solicitor general Theodore Olson is part of a team that has filed suit in federal court in California seeking to overturn Proposition 8 and re-establish the right of same-sex couples to marry.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: byronyork; caglbt; gaystapo; homobama; homosexualagenda; perverts; prop8; reynolds; samesexmarriage; tedolson
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To: xjcsa

Sorry to step on your ‘gay’ sensibilities....


61 posted on 05/27/2009 12:26:04 PM PDT by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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To: NinoFan

The game plan of the left is to push social change via the courts as a super legislature. This is about ENDORSING that a person playing with the genitals of another person of the same sex for recreation is somehow a benefit to society.

ALL Organizations that have Olson as a director or officers should be challenged or financially dumped.


62 posted on 05/27/2009 12:29:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Roe v. Wade...
Society has no right to intervene in private reproductive choices.

Yes, up to a point when the compelling interest kicks in - 28 weeks/ 1st trimester in Roe v. Wade which was superseded by the current standard of whatever science deems viable today, 19 weeks(?) in PP vs Casey.

63 posted on 05/27/2009 1:01:10 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Barack Benito Obama heads the most shocking "end justifies the means" gang of thugs/ administration)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

“Ok mr Olsen, when homosexual coitus can produce babies then homosexual unions meet the basic qualification for marriage. “
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Infertile people cannot legally marry?


64 posted on 05/27/2009 1:13:49 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: steve-b
The decision says precisely the opposite — that monogamy is a civil institution which may not be superceded by religious doctrine.

No, it says marriage is regulated by statutory law.

Homosexuals cannot be monogamous. Mono-'gamy' denotes a biological procreation homosexuals are incapable of with each other.

Aside from that, nature determines how babies are produced. The natural law does not need human laws... All men are born of women.

Monogamy is a religious standard applied to the secular law.

Another convoluted decision like Roe v. Wade.

If Roe v. Wade says society cannot intervene in private reproductive choices, then public funding for abortion is illegal.

The homosexuals want their "separation of church and state," yet they will seek ceremonious sanctification in a marriage rite and some kind of esoteric absolution from the church of the state.

65 posted on 05/27/2009 1:41:48 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
No, it says marriage is regulated by statutory law.

So you confirm -- the court said that marriage is a civil institution.

Mono-'gamy' denotes a biological procreation

You don't get to make up your own words. "Monogamy" means "having one and only one sexual partner".

66 posted on 05/27/2009 1:57:51 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
If that is the case, the government, local, state and federal should get out of the marriage business.
67 posted on 05/27/2009 4:08:49 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: steve-b
"Monogamy" means "having one and only one sexual partner". Wrong... "gamos" is a medical terminology... it denotes procreation...
68 posted on 05/27/2009 7:11:33 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: steve-b
"Monogamy" means "having one and only one sexual partner".

Wrong... "gamos" is a medical terminology... it denotes procreation...

69 posted on 05/27/2009 7:11:52 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: trumandogz
If that is the case, the government, local, state and federal should get out of the marriage business.

EXACTLY...

The Constitution specifically addresses INDIVIDUAL rights.

70 posted on 05/27/2009 7:13:26 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Fred
Sorry to step on your ‘gay’ sensibilities....

I just think it's possible to oppose someone on principle without going after them personally. I think Olson's wrong, but I don't have to insinuate that he's gay in order to oppose him on this. That's a technique of the left.

71 posted on 05/27/2009 7:14:09 PM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: xjcsa

Yawn


73 posted on 05/27/2009 7:35:52 PM PDT by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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To: indylindy
We might expect better from him.

While I'm no opponent of same-sex relationships (whether they call themselves married, domestically partnered, civilly unionized, or just plain going steady), I'm going to give Ted a bit of the benefit of the doubt here. Even the Lambda Legal organization (pro-homosexual law lobby) has said this suit is a mistake.

Regardless of Ted's personal motivations for this, opponents of gay marriage should welcome this suit. We all know that the Ninth Circuit is by far the most liberal of the appellate courts, and this is the first case ripe for them.

Washington State has had no recent law requiring one man, one woman marriage, and the constitutional amendments of Hawaii, Alaska and even Oregon were enacted some time ago. In the case of California, the amendment is very recent, and actually changed the law (court-imposed, of course) that allowed same-sex marriage. That didn't happen in any other state. Clearly, this is a severe temptation for the Ninth Circuit to rule in favor of the suit, and should they do so, there would be a fairly quick appeal to the Supreme Court.

Right now, the status of same-sex marriage is that it is legal in a few places, explicitly prohibited in about three-fifths of the states (recently so), and less than fifteen years ago was officially disfavored on the Federal level with DOMA.

Sotomayor replacing Souter on the Court does nothing to change the balance between conservative and liberal. The four conservative Justices can be depended on to be rock solid on this, only Kennedy is in question. I know how he voted on Lawrence vs. Texas, but there's a big difference between allowing an activity, and sanctioning it in a societal institution. Kennedy probably can make that distinction.

At this point, there is liable to be a ruling that may stand for many years that there is no Constitutional right to marry a person of the same gender. That could be what Ted's secretly trying to accomplish here. That tosses the issue back to the states, and sets a precedent for enforcing DOMA. You will have gay marriage in only the hard-core blue states, the ones that voted for Dukakis, at least for the next generation.

If you oppose letting homosexuals marry, what's the downside here?

74 posted on 05/27/2009 8:00:20 PM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: BCrago66
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75 posted on 05/28/2009 11:20:01 AM PDT by b4its2late (There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.)
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