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(CA) Lawmakers consider $1.50-per-pack cigarette tax hike
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 25, 2009 | Patrick McGreevy

Posted on 05/25/2009 6:53:38 AM PDT by reaganaut1

For years tobacco companies have successfully fought off attempts by California lawmakers and health groups to increase the cigarette tax. But next month, as the state grapples with the worst financial crisis in recent history, that may change.

Lawmakers will consider a proposal to hike cigarette taxes by $1.50 per pack and raise $1.2 billion annually. During the last decade, cigarette makers have spent tens of millions of dollars to kill 14 straight attempts to make smokers pay more.

But with the state facing a staggering $21.3-billion deficit and due to run out of cash in July, the tobacco tax could have a better chance of passing the Legislature.

"Given the serious budget shortfall we face, this is the year to pass the tobacco tax," said Sen. Alex Padilla (D-Pacoima). "It is needed now more than ever."

Padilla wrote the current proposal with Senate leader Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento), but even with Steinberg's support, it faces an uphill battle. The tobacco industry sees California as a crucial market and a trendsetter for anti-tobacco ideas that can spread through the country, said Beverly May, regional director of Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, a Washington anti-smoking group.

"The tobacco companies view California very much as a battleground state," she said. "California is a state that they look at as important to do everything they can to have influence in any way they can."

Frank Lester, a spokesman for Reynolds American Inc., said proposals to raise tobacco taxes in California have failed in part because the state's residents are compassionate and see the tax as unfair.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: cigarettetaxes; pufflist; taxes; taxincreases
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Singling out a small group of people for a tax is wrong, whether it's smokers or the "rich".

The supposed revenue gain of $1.2 billion would fill about 5% of the budget gap, and I bet the revenue estimate ignores the increased purchases of cigarettes from out of state and on the black market.

The article says California has lower cigarette taxes than many other states. How many LA Times articles have cited California's top-ranking income and sales taxes are reasons for tax cuts?

1 posted on 05/25/2009 6:53:38 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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2 posted on 05/25/2009 6:57:46 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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If this passes what would a pack cost?


3 posted on 05/25/2009 6:57:55 AM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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Usually the poor are the ones who get hit with the higher taxed when it come to smoking.


4 posted on 05/25/2009 6:57:57 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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The TJ Trolley will turn into a cig smuggling route. We’ll have homeless people walking back and forth across the border just to carry a couple packs.


5 posted on 05/25/2009 7:02:13 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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All they are doing is strengthening the foundations for a robust cigarette smuggling business. It’s simple economics...and they will never see increased revenues from a ridiculous move like this...


6 posted on 05/25/2009 7:02:51 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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All they are doing is strengthening the foundations for a robust cigarette smuggling business.

I was told just the other day by a local sheriff's deputy that burglary of mom and pop stores and convenience stores has exploded with the target being cigarettes. The burglars can turn them into cash very quickly.

7 posted on 05/25/2009 7:08:09 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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If this passes what would a pack cost?

$6.50 to $7/pack. I hope they raise them to $10/pack to really piss off the folks who just spanked them in voting down their budget initiatives.

8 posted on 05/25/2009 7:08:18 AM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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If the citizens of Ca. won’t fight for their state let it become a part of Mexico again.


9 posted on 05/25/2009 7:09:20 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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$1.50 tax hike? Stupid liberals. All they would have to do is raise the tax by $30.00 per pack, and that would erase the whole deficit. It’s so simple.


10 posted on 05/25/2009 7:18:36 AM PDT by San Jacinto (gorebull warming -- the Socialists' Shortcut.)
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It’s 7.50 now for merits, 4.75 for camels.


11 posted on 05/25/2009 7:32:28 AM PDT by edcoil (IF CA rolls pollution standards back to 1990 levels, lets roll CA spending back as well.)
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“voting down their budget initiatives.”

You mean Tax Increases for additional years.

The congress already passed the tax increases for this year, we are already paying for them.

The prop’s were to extend them pass this year.


12 posted on 05/25/2009 7:34:28 AM PDT by edcoil (IF CA rolls pollution standards back to 1990 levels, lets roll CA spending back as well.)
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Here it comes. Their voter initiatives failed. Now they’re going to stick it to everyone.

You’re next.


13 posted on 05/25/2009 7:36:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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Stupid liberals. All they would have to do is raise the tax by $30.00 per pack, and that would erase the whole deficit. It’s so simple.

And raise the minimum wage to $100/hr and end poverty!

14 posted on 05/25/2009 7:37:27 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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Indeed. Tobacco tax revenue will likely decrease as the incentive for smugglers increases. Not to mention, inviting organized crime to set up shop to take advantage of this bonanza:

Check out this study by the Cato Institute:

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa468.pdf

15 posted on 05/25/2009 7:42:14 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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“For years tobacco companies have successfully fought off attempts by California lawmakers and health groups to increase the cigarette tax. But next month, as the state grapples with the worst financial crisis in recent history, that may change.”

That statement is Bullscoot.

Taxes were increased multiple times here in California in recent years. Sometimes taxes were increased inside of a few months of one another to the point that last I paid for a carton of cigarettes was $35.71. A carton would last ten days. Then came the Dems SCHIP legislation that tossed the taxes even higher.

I smoked for fifty years because I enjoyed smoking. I quit smoking cold turkey after fifty years because I wasn’t going to pay for Democrats pet projects that I disagree with.

Advice to many smokers out there from one whom has been there is that it isn’t as difficult to quit as is made out to be. Just do it if that’s what you wish to do.


16 posted on 05/25/2009 7:43:00 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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If you really want some action then I propose a dollar a can tax on beer.


17 posted on 05/25/2009 7:45:38 AM PDT by bluecollarman (Everybody, looks good...at the starting line......."Paul Thorn")
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Uh, my brand is already $6.50 a pack here in California. At $8/pack, it would probably be worth a trip across the state to Nevada to load up on cartons, assuming a vigorous black market doesn't arise. 'Course there would be that pesky risk of being arrested for interstate smuggling.

But you said, I hope they raise them to $10/pack to really piss off the folks who just spanked them in voting down their budget initiatives. So are you giving all the credit for the successful revolt to smokers? Or do you really think non-smokers will become PO'd at this new tax, which won't affect them, rather than react by going, "Whew! Dodged that tax."?

18 posted on 05/25/2009 7:51:06 AM PDT by dorothy ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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Gotta love our political betters. They "give" the public a "stimulus check" hoping that it will be spent to advance the economy.

Then they pass all sorts of new taxes that when added together are more than the "stimulus check" and they wonder why people didn't go out and buy things with the supposed "windfall".

Tax cuts would be a better incentive, but the political betters don't get the credit and the votes.

19 posted on 05/25/2009 8:10:45 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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It’s a real shame. my cigars have doubled in price and just went up another 4 bucks, just recently.

*sigh*... I am now ordering on internet, and if we all do that, cigar shops, will go out of business, here in Los Angeles. what a shame.


20 posted on 05/25/2009 8:11:57 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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