[Malsua]

I have a question.

Using that site http://www.fueleconomy.gov/ are the fuel economy numbers adjusted to normalize pre/post 2008 testing standards?

For 2008 and newer models, the testing standards are different and tougher. Sort of like the old Horsepower ratings on muscle cars to today’s cars, you can’t compare the two, it’s not apples and apples. A car that was rated to have say 22highway in 1993 probably would rate 19 highway or so for 2009.

[bert]

Then there is ethanol. When ethanol is blended into the gasoline the mileage decreases. That is, it takes more fuel to travel a given number of miles on ethanol blend than it did on undiluted gasoline. If the amount of ethanol added is 10% as it is, and the decrease in mileage is 15%+ as actually is, the ethanol actually increases the amount of gasoline consumed.

The net result is an increase in the amount of imported gasoline as a result of blending in ethanol.

[narses]

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[Reeses]

if it were possible to design an engine that achieved 200 mpg

Theoretically fuel efficiency approaches infinity as speed approaches zero, so it is possible to get 200mpg however the vehicle would have to move at turtle speed. Air conditioner, fan, radio energy use though increase with travel time so this limits fuel efficiency in the real world.

[The Great RJ]

The only way automakers will reach Obama's goal is to radically redesign the vehicles. As this article so clearly points out that the CAFE standards cannot be met by incremental engineering changes in current lines.

What car makers have done in the past is a careful balance of improved fuel economy, drivability and utility. Obama's standards will throw practical considerations out the window and vehicles will be designed solely to meet fuel efficiency standards. The 30 mpg truck will by necessity have very limited cargo capacity and likely no towing ability. Many businesses as well a farmers and ranchers depend on trucks for heavy duty jobs, large load capacity and hauling trailers. Who does Lord Obama think will buy these vehicles when they cannot do the job?

[yazoo]

Any gas guzzler that can pass an emissions test does not impact the environment in any way. Environmental idiots confuse saving gas with protecting the environment. These are the same morons who think recycling paper saves rain forests.

[upcountryhorseman]

I don't care what the Chicago bunch forces the automakers
to do, I'm sticking with my F-250 diesel pickup. It is
safer in an accident, I have higher visibility than the
little “Fiat” type cars, and I need to haul stuff.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks neverdem.

The Bum Rap on Biofuels
American Thinker | 5-13-08 | Herbert Meyer
Posted on 05/14/2008 3:59:06 AM PDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2015711/posts

Campaign to vilify ethanol revealed
ethanol producer Magazine | May 16, 2008 | By Kris Bevill
Posted on 05/17/2008 9:22:13 AM PDT by Kevin J waldroup
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2017389/posts