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To: neverdem

problem is the 10th admendment thing. it allows state to enforce their own gun laws, laws thaty often violate the 2nd admendment, adn thus do actually violate the 10th (the power to ban the right to bear arms is not a power granted to the state.)

In california, where carry permits are near imposible to obtain in all but rular areas, this law will do little to help. heck we cant even buy a magazine with more than 10 rounds!!
little good would an unloaded gun would have done them dead folks in Yosemite. now if california had reconnized the right to bear arms, them hikers would have been allowed to concel carry loaded weapons, and possible have a chance of killing their attacker.

the right law would have been for the feds to say, all parks in all states are open carry!!! that would solve the probelm. the new law does very very little to help us folks in anti-gun states infact it in a sick way give the staes the authority to enforce their 2 nd admendment violating laws on national parks.

this was pssed by liberal as a stunt to make them appear pro-gun to voters, thats all. the liberal polticans from california know it would change little in california parks. this law actually seems to grant the state the right to strike down the 2nd admendment right.


5 posted on 05/22/2009 10:50:39 PM PDT by dhm914
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To: dhm914
Ninth Circuit Rules 2nd Amendment Incorporated to States

A link to the decision is in comment# 1. A lot of CA laws will probably be coming off the books soon.

7 posted on 05/22/2009 11:23:56 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: dhm914

Spell check is our friend.


8 posted on 05/23/2009 2:32:30 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (uickly)
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To: dhm914
the new law does very very little to help us folks in anti-gun states infact it in a sick way give the staes the authority to enforce their 2 nd admendment violating laws on national parks.

Don't like the laws in your state? Then band together with like minded people and change them! all it takes is for people to turn off american idol and get into the fray.

I lived in CA during the early '80's and helped defeat a number of anti-gun measures through... activism.

All you have to do is peruse this forum and see how many bad state 2A laws have been struck down or changed over the years, throughout the country, even in the northern lib bastions... it can be done, if you take the fight to them.

9 posted on 05/23/2009 3:15:16 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: dhm914
“this was pssed by liberal as a stunt to make them appear pro-gun to voters, thats all. the liberal polticans from california know it would change little in california parks. this law actually seems to grant the state the right to strike down the 2nd admendment right.”

The 9th Circuit recently incorporated the 2nd Amendment so as to restrict the laws of the States, including California. There are several lawsuits in progress to loosen up the Californian firearms laws.
12 posted on 05/23/2009 9:16:17 PM PDT by marktwain
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