[pfflier]

It's a North-South issue there. For the most part Southern California tends more conservative but from Santa Barbara north, it is a raging cauldron of liberal B.S.

I hope they follow through on the attempt to split the state and that Northern California succeeds. They have effectively departed the US morally and their idea of mainstream politics is Boxer and Pelosi although I'm sure they would welcome Waxman from the peoples republic of Santa Monica.

[fr_freak]

It's a North-South issue there. For the most part Southern California tends more conservative but from Santa Barbara north, it is a raging cauldron of liberal B.S.

Sorry, but that's incorrect. Many people make the mistake of thinking that the only thing north of LA is San Francisco. Pretty much all of northern California except for San Francisco and the surrounding areas and, recently, Sacramento, is majority conservative. That's a lot of counties.

[rivercat]

It's a North-South issue there.

Nope, it's an East-West issue. The eastern parts of CA are far more conservative than the coastal parts.