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Credit Card Industry Aims to Profit From Sterling Payers (annual fees, no grace period)
New York Times ^ | May 18, 2009 | Andrew Martin

Posted on 05/19/2009 5:06:46 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: mtrott

Exactly the same thing in healthcare.

Zero wants all the sick to ride the backs of the healthy.


41 posted on 05/19/2009 7:10:25 AM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: reaganaut1

It looks like the Community-Organizer-In-Chief is going to prevent credit card companies from a covering the costs generated by people who refuse to pay their bills. So they are going to go after people who do pay their bills to make up the shortfall.

If retailers start chrging back customers for the transaction fees or credit card companies start addign annual fees to my card, I will simply drop the cards and pay cash. Screw them. I am willing to pay a little bit for convenience, but no more.

Before too long, the credit card companies are going to find that deadbeats are the only customers they have left.


42 posted on 05/19/2009 7:31:03 AM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: reaganaut1
I don't think this will actually happen, because a credit card company that tried this would lose its credit-worthy customers to a company that was more selective.

So our Community-Organizer-In-Chief will just get Congress to pass a law that says that credit cards cannot be selective, and must issue to anybody.

Or maybe we can just have a complete government take-over, and have a nationalized credit card!

43 posted on 05/19/2009 7:33:34 AM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: Beagle8U
Ever try to rent a car or reserve a hotel room without one? They wont take a debit card!

This will change. If the most credit-worthy customers are dropping their cards, businesses will find some other way to accomodate their best customers.

44 posted on 05/19/2009 7:35:44 AM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: reaganaut1
“Those that manage their credit well will in some degree subsidize those that have credit problems.”

Just what Obama wants..

45 posted on 05/19/2009 8:05:33 AM PDT by b4its2late (There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.)
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To: sickoflibs

ping


46 posted on 05/19/2009 8:06:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (If printing money was an answer, why don't Haitians "print" their way out of poverty?)
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To: reaganaut1

Ya know....another thing that bank credit cards do is act as a back up for OVERDRAFTS to your checking account, SINCE it’s AGAINST the law for a bank to pull from your SAVINGS into your Checking as overdraft protection.....NOT that we do overdrafts, but it DOES happen occasionally that there’s more money in the savings than the checking....


47 posted on 05/19/2009 8:09:22 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: Orange1998

That’s the drawback with debit cards- the vendor will put a big hold on your account for more than the bill, and for up to several weeks

I’ve heard many stories of bounced checks from folks who used debit cards for car rentals and didnt realizee the hold period was so long


48 posted on 05/19/2009 8:10:54 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: Beagle8U

Actually, Enterprise (at least here) will rent with a debit card—but it’s a hassle. They tack an extra $100 refundable deposit into the rental rate, and require two proofs of residency, basically two utility bills, to be presented when picking up the car.

}:-)4


49 posted on 05/19/2009 8:11:04 AM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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To: reaganaut1

““Those that manage their credit well will in some degree subsidize those that have credit problems.””

I think this is becoming the theme of the Obama admin. Those that work hard, play by the rules and are smart get punished and those that don’t get rewarded.


50 posted on 05/19/2009 8:11:15 AM PDT by Birch Barlow (We have gone from a Bush Country to an Obama Nation)
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To: reaganaut1

Looks like I need to go through every credit card I own and cancel them, except the one with my credit union. I’ll cancel it too if they try to charge an annual fee.


51 posted on 05/19/2009 8:12:02 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: GOPJ
People who routinely pay off their credit card balances have been enjoying the equivalent of a free ride, he said,
I remember when CCs first came out. They were using that as a selling point. Now you're a "deadbeat". Orwell is alive and well.

. . . because many have not had to pay an annual fee
Good ole Gerry Ford initiated that little gimmick to "control inflation" (think "WIN" buttons - Whip Inflation Now!) Of course the banks were eager to "fight inflation" by charging $30 a year. Boy, that really worked. Now they whine because people took them up on the "No Annual Fee!" promotion.

. . . even as they collect points for air travel and other perks.
More whining over people taking advantage of a gimmick the banks used to lure them in.

Pathetic, and blind, losers.

52 posted on 05/19/2009 8:12:21 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: reaganaut1
I really don't appreciate the attitude, especially from bankers who abeted these problems:

"..People who routinely pay off their credit card balances have been enjoying the equivalent of a free ride, he said, because many have not had to pay an annual fee even as they collect points for air travel and other perks.

“Despite all the terrible things that have been said, you’re making out like a bandit,” he said. “That’s a third of credit card customers, 50 million people who have gotten a great deal.”.."


53 posted on 05/19/2009 8:15:15 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: reaganaut1
I have a stack of credit cards, most of which I use for only special purchases (My BP Visa gives 5% at BP, so I only use it there. Similarly with my Shell MC). If they start charging $20 per year on each card I can cut down to a couple cards. If they eliminate grace periods and rebates, I can switch to cash or checks for local purchases and debit cards for internet/phone purchases.

One thing about credit cards, debit cards and checks is it allows people to keep most of their money in the bank until they actually use it. If the banks push too hard, consumers may start living like my parents did while I was a child. When the paycheck came (actual check, no direct deposit), my father would cash it and take about a third to a half as actual cash, leaving the rest in checking to pay bills. He almost never used a credit card. The fractional reserve banking system functions much more smoothly if people aren't holding onto large blocks of cash for weeks or a month at a time. The banks start being able to lend money only based on the lowest monthly balances rather than counting on people drawing down their accounts a little at a time. Consider that there is only about $800 billion of US currency in circulation (http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/fedpoint/fed01.html), with the majority of that held outside the US. If every worker in the country started sitting on $1000 cash outside the banks, that would consume a large amount of the currency in circulation. It might even wipe out currency available in the US.

54 posted on 05/19/2009 8:19:29 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: GOPJ; reaganaut1

Thanks, I get the rewards and never paid interest and knew this would happen. The problem is that we are a very low credit risk and much less costly asa group, so the market may still force them to reward us for good credit.

In Maryland the dems passed a law that made it illegal for home insurance companies to give us a discount for GOOD credit and our premiums went way up. A number of Freepers here agreed with democrats on this, but now with the housing bubble crash the bad credit risks left their forclosed houses a disaster and the banks expect the insurance companies to fix up the houses.


55 posted on 05/19/2009 8:22:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama /Pelosi/Bush Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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To: reaganaut1
It will be important to read the fine print on those terms statements.

Many will drop credit cards and go to debit cards, if card fees/immediate interest are imposed.

It depends on exactly how much the credit card companies expect those who manage their credit well to subsidize those who don't.

==

Since my first VISA in 1967, I have never paid a fee for a credit card, and I don't intend to start paying a card fee now.


56 posted on 05/19/2009 8:30:17 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Prodigal Son
I haven’t used it in over two years. I’m beginning to wonder why I even have it.

One day you will get a letter saying your account has been closed. No warning. Or, you may get a letter saying your account will be closed if you don't use the card in the next few weeks. I've had both.

The first lowers ones credit rating. So does canceling it yourself.

57 posted on 05/19/2009 8:31:00 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: nh1
It’ll be debit or cash.

Then they will start an annual fee for debit cards.

58 posted on 05/19/2009 8:32:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: reaganaut1
perks such as cash back

That is the only reason I use a credit card any more. If they take that away, I'll start using a debit card or ye ole checks (if I can remember how to fill one out).
59 posted on 05/19/2009 8:32:36 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Orange1998
The debit card is not free, my issuer charges 12.00 a year.

Consider changing banks.

I have 2 banks and debit cards with each. Neither charges a fee for the card. If they did, I'd give it back to them.
60 posted on 05/19/2009 8:35:24 AM PDT by TomGuy
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