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The 12,000 that were there seemed to applaud Obama loudly. They also did that “YES WE CAN” and “WE ARE N.D.” to silence the few protesters inside the commencement. 75% of the American Bishops refused to sign the anti Obama petition and the Vatican was also silent on allowing Obama to speak.

Just outta curiosity, you wanna explain to all us non-papists out here in flyover country just why it is that Rome is so loathe to excommunicate these baby-murdering summabeeyotches?

In all honesty, for a religion which claims to worship at the altar of a doctrine of works, I can't think of a single, substantive concrete act which Ratzinger has taken to prevent the ongoing descent of the Roman church into nihilism & extinction.

The Church is in the midst of a crisis. For the past 2000 years the Church has faced its storms and periods where many lose their faith, but it has always survived. In England, St. John Fisher was the ONLY English Bishop to publicly oppose Henry VII's Oath which declared him head of the Church.

Although it might now be apparent, the tide is turning in the Church in a positive direction, albeit slowly. Thirty years ago there was a pro-abortion Jesuit priest in Congress. Ten years ago there was no mention of denying pro-abortion politicians communion, now there is.

The 12,000 that were there seemed to applaud Obama loudly. They also did that “YES WE CAN” and “WE ARE N.D.” to silence the few protesters inside the commencement. 75% of the American Bishops refused to sign the anti Obama petition and the Vatican was also silent on allowing Obama to speak.

I just saw the TV clips. It was disgusting.

Just outta curiosity, you wanna explain to all us non-papists out here in flyover country just why it is that Rome is so loathe to excommunicate these baby-murdering summabeeyotches?

I really don't know. Money? Are they afraid they will alienate liberal Catholic contributors?

Maybe, but I am not so sure. I am thinking it is more ideological and many Catholic leaders are just.....liberal.

In all honesty, for a religion which claims to worship at the altar of a doctrine of works, I can't think of a single, substantive concrete act which Ratzinger has taken to prevent the ongoing descent of the Roman church into nihilism & extinction.

I don't wish to engage in Catholic bashing. But, the Vatican is not beyond criticism. I applauded the Pope for his mild rebuke of Pelosi, but that is all it was. A mild rebuke.

If the church really took a stand against these politicians who claim to be Catholic, they could.