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1 posted on 05/17/2009 3:16:34 AM PDT by MartinaMisc
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How can you pass legislation that punishes a person based on how he/she felt at the time of the crime? That is why the standard of law should be: “What did this person do that was a harm to others or himself, and was that behavior against the law?” Period.

Congress is so out of control it is unbelievable. Everyone one of them, except those who are for limited Federal government, needs to be voted out of office. Then we vote in people who understand how to govern our country.


2 posted on 05/17/2009 3:36:41 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: MartinaMisc

Yoo mus’ be racis’...


3 posted on 05/17/2009 3:39:13 AM PDT by Old Sarge (There is no god)
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Hate Crime = Thought Crime


4 posted on 05/17/2009 3:51:02 AM PDT by DaiHuy (')
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"Are hate crimes any worse than others?"

Nope.

5 posted on 05/17/2009 3:51:44 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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Are hate crimes any worse than others?

The basic truth is all crime is nurtured by hate.
A Husband kills his wife and kids.At some point he loved them.How could he now kill them unless the opposite was true,he now hates them.
The bank robber hates that everyone has more then he does and his hate tells him the easy way to change that is to rob a bank.
The current HATE CRIME laws are not about crime reduction or about law.They are about re-eduction of the poeple to moralities that previosly were unacceptable to society.Hate Crimes laws are Politic Laws not Crime Laws...


6 posted on 05/17/2009 3:55:04 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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Hitler would have been proud.


8 posted on 05/17/2009 4:07:31 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Teleprompter Boy fails.)
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Hate crime equals thought crime.

Orwell was a prophet of sorts.

I am very afraid.


10 posted on 05/17/2009 4:13:21 AM PDT by Ronin (Moderate Taliban? Oxymoron. Obama voters? Plain morons.)
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Are hate crimes any worse than others?

YES........ if you are accused of committing one.

14 posted on 05/17/2009 4:30:58 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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Will this be used on the type of thugs that beat up reginald denny after the rodney king arrest? Nooooo... They will use it on a little old lady that mutters something under her breath to a TSA “employee” at your local airport, who says “Whut u call me?”. Or the man who accidentally runs over a jaywalker and because it was on the southside...


19 posted on 05/17/2009 4:52:50 AM PDT by Rocketwolf68 (Bring back the crusades)
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....it will be interesting to see how this would be enforced with non violent crime....say a straight lawyer embezzles from a queer’s trust fund....or a car thief steals a queer’s vehicle....or a neighbor complains about a loud party at a queer’s home....are these hate crimes?


21 posted on 05/17/2009 5:05:48 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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If this passes, I recommend Barack and Michelle be the first two prosecuted under the law. Their words and actions show indisputable “hate” for America and the things that make her great....

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22 posted on 05/17/2009 5:12:10 AM PDT by hoosier hick ((I'm back to..) Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo. (Barry Goldwater))
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Hate crime laws are the tools of hatred by hateful hate-mongers.


24 posted on 05/17/2009 5:17:35 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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My take is pretty much like Harvey Keitel’s in the US version of “Life on Mars”:

“A hate crime? As opposed to a ‘I really, really like you’ crime?”


26 posted on 05/17/2009 5:27:48 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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I hate lib's. So what? Are they going arrest me? Can't help it if the POS have absolutely no control of their actions (liberalism is a dangerous disease, 99% of democrats have it, and 100% of RINO's have it).


What's the opposite of a hate crime? Am waiting to hear them on the stand now - "Yes, I had to kill her because I lived her.....she didn't know what was good for her".
29 posted on 05/17/2009 5:35:49 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Keep your change obummer, I STILL support Sarah!)
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No, it's just another way the Left circumvents the law, prosecuting people who have been aquitted of "normal" crimes by stacking a Fed jury with people eager to "get even" with Whitey.

OJ would have been spending the rest of his life in jail for murder if he had been white and the victims "special".

31 posted on 05/17/2009 5:38:31 AM PDT by Feckless (No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
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Of course they’re worse than any other crime!

Mathew Sheppard is deader than he would have been if those anti-homosexual, racists who murdered him while screaming “I HATE FAGS!!!!” than he would have been if he had just been murdered by another homosexual, or in a drug deal gone bad...

Huh? It was a drug deal gone bad? Oh, never mind.

Mark


34 posted on 05/17/2009 5:49:18 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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Odd that they’d name it for the victim of a drug deal gone bad.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=277685&page=1


37 posted on 05/17/2009 7:25:48 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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There is no such thing as a hate crime. Any such legislation is complete Barbra Streisand.


41 posted on 05/17/2009 11:48:54 AM PDT by karnage
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