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To: cheee; GodGunsGuts
" For those folks who think we’ve figured out DNA, try this - change the DNA code in a a hummingbird to build a robin’s nest. THEN I’ll really be impressed"

Well stated!

I don't know if these complex behaviors are part of the body of information in their DNA, or if they are transmitted individually by their creator, but either way there is no room for a naturalistic explanation of them. And they do also raise the level of complexity far above even the function and structure of eyes and brains, to a mathematically indescribable level.

8 posted on 05/16/2009 11:48:27 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, I assumed in my answer that what defines ‘us’ is what is included in our DNA - no more and no less. As you suggest, this may not be true.

I read somewhere that a distinguished neurosurgeon thinks that our brains are a ‘transmitter’ that allows us to communicate with our true selves (soul, perhaps?).

If true, this could explain lots of things. For instance, why we might act differently after brain damage occurs. A stroke, dementia, or other damage might have simply damaged our ability to receive, and act on, information/instruction.

This might also suggest how our brains might be able to accumulate and retrieve a life-time’s worth of memories. (Off-site storage?). Just imagine the amount of data contained in simultaneous storage of visual, auditory, taste, smell, feel, and emotional information for the millions of events over a lifetime of experiences. It boggles the mind.

To pick something as an example: Let’s say 40 years ago you rode on Disney World’s Space Mountain roller coaster. I submit that the previous ride seems awfully fresh and familiar as you experience the same sensations for a second time. The same magnitude of information storage can and has occurred for other events - most of which can’t be so easily repeated.

So, can one’s life flash before one’s eyes? Sure it could, the data is all there. Viewing it, however, would be both a blessing and a curse.


11 posted on 05/16/2009 5:22:48 PM PDT by cheee (Flee from Evil ... and don't leave a forwarding address...)
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To: editor-surveyor; GodGunsGuts
I don't know if these complex behaviors are part of the body of information in their DNA, or if they are transmitted individually by their creator, but either way there is no room for a naturalistic explanation of them. And they do also raise the level of complexity far above even the function and structure of eyes and brains, to a mathematically indescribable level.

I personally think the latter (bolded) option is the correct answer. The ability to build a nest from pure "natural" instinct is simply too complex to be contained within a simple sequence of four proteins in DNA, no matter how large.

It is becoming increasingly obvious with our observations of nature that the direct hand of God cannot be ignored - only secularistic science refuses to directly acknowledge the Creator in their 'scientific' books and papers. Creation scientists are not so handicapped.

"Lift your eyes and look to the heavens: Who created all these? He who brings out the starry host one by one, and calls them each by name. Because of his great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing." -Isaiah 40:26

The Bible is clear that it is the Lord whose direct intervention keeps the stars aflame - is it no surprise that he intervenes to allow the bird to build its nest?

The universe would fall to pieces without His involvement in keeping "natural" laws from falling apart.

14 posted on 05/16/2009 7:22:37 PM PDT by WondrousCreation (Good science regarding the Earth's past only reveals what Christians have known for centuries!)
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