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California Voters Say Cut Government Spending, Don’t Raise Taxes
Rassmussen Reports ^ | May 14, 2009 | Rassmussen

Posted on 05/15/2009 4:35:17 PM PDT by Ron C.

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To: blam
"Good luck...my sister lives in Carmel and my son lives in LA. (small world) "

Oops! Carmel, Indiana.

41 posted on 05/15/2009 6:08:18 PM PDT by blam
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To: Ron C.; All

He played Conan the Barbarian, he thinks he is Richard the Lion Heart - but in the end, he was an actor on the court stage, the court Jester; Arnold the fool.


42 posted on 05/15/2009 6:24:27 PM PDT by edcoil (Taxes only help an evil government)
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To: Ron C.

I think I’ve boiled the essence of what you are talking about into a simple idea:

No Representation without Taxation.


43 posted on 05/15/2009 6:31:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: Ron C.

...I think you’re right about that. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the number only get to the lows 60s: 62%-64%


44 posted on 05/15/2009 6:31:41 PM PDT by americanophile (There's science, logic, reason; there's thought verified by experience & then there's California)
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To: hattend

This same kind of polling is showing up in private polls, you can be guaranteed. I’m sure there are Dems is safe districts who aren’t sweating, but in the closer ones there are vulnerable ones who are shaking.


45 posted on 05/15/2009 6:36:42 PM PDT by qwertypie
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What’s to stop the state gov’t from just saying “F**K the voters, we’re taking bailout money”!!!!


46 posted on 05/15/2009 7:02:28 PM PDT by ak267
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To: Wissa

Certain areas of California are turning into another New Orleans... any taxpayers worth their salt are either fleeing or keeping their money out of state and the place gets bluer and bluer. They’ll get one good earthquake and it will be Katrina times 10. I got out in 2004 and I don’t miss it. It does suck, however, that such a beautiful place has been so miserably ruined. San Francisco has already been ruined beyond repair and it is such a shame.


47 posted on 05/15/2009 7:09:11 PM PDT by ponygirl ("Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Swordmaker; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...
Californians will vote next Tuesday on a series of budget-related propositions... Seventy-three percent (73%) of California voters oppose raising state income taxes to eliminate the budget deficit. Raising the state sales tax is opposed by 69% ... 69% favor major cuts in government spending to eliminate the budget deficit. Just 16% oppose the spending cuts... Ninety percent (90%) of voters say legislators should not get a pay raise if they fail to pass a balanced budget. Just five percent (5%) disagree... Seventy percent (70%) believe that if the legislators can't balance the budget, they should take a significant pay cut.

48 posted on 05/15/2009 7:11:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Only fools keep politicians in office that continually bow and scrape before the altar of the envirowackos who have KEPT CALIFORNIANS from producing oil REVENUES enough to help save the state from BANKRUPTCY! STOP THE FOOLISHNESS! VOTE OUT THE LIBERALS and retake your state!


49 posted on 05/15/2009 8:27:45 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: Gritty

“The Feds will bail Kalifornia out of this mess. Like the banks and GM, it’s too big to fail.”

IIRC Glenn Beck was talking about this very thing today...I believe he said that Barney Frank is pushing for it??


50 posted on 05/15/2009 8:40:35 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (SARAH PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.)
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To: Ron C.

TEST Test test...new tag line on test.....stand by...loading....steady.....


51 posted on 05/15/2009 9:11:37 PM PDT by spokeshave (USA #1; Pirates -3...Voting them all out of office would be a sufficient pay cut)
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To: Ron C.
Here are Arnold's threats.

MAJOR HEALTH CUTS PROPOSED IN GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PROPOSALS

* Governor To Ask Federal Government for Permission for a $750 Million Medi-Cal Cut

* Cuts Would Harm Health System & Economy; Hundreds of Millions in Lost Federal Funds

* Governor Rejects Proposing Long-Term Revenues Needed to Prevent Devastating Cuts

DEVASTATING TO WHO?

Today, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced several proposal cuts to fill a $15.4-21.3 billion deficit in the 2009-10 budget year. The economic crisis has caused the budget agreed to by the Governor and legislative leaders to fall out of balance.

So the answer to your fiscally foolish stupidity is make the citizens pay more taxes?

The Governor's "2009-10 May Revision General Fund Proposals," available at the Department of Finance website at http://www.dof.ca.gov/, includes a package of largely cuts to fill a $15.4 billion shortfall, and then additional “contingency proposals” if Propositions 1C (and to a lesser extent, 1D & 1E) fail on the May 19th ballot next week.

"To look for new revenues is out of the question," said the Governor at his press conference. His package includes cuts, borrowing, selling state-owned properties, eliminating some state agencies and boards, accelerating revenues, shifting funds and laying off 5,000 state employees.

Sell the Cow Palace, Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum; San Quentin State Prison and Cal Expo. Privatize them would help the economy anyway. Put death row in Corcoran.

SPECIFIC HEALTH CUTS: There are nearly $2 billion in additional cuts to health and human services. If Propositions 1C (as well as 1D and 1E) are rejected, there is an additional $600 million cuts in health and human services.

* The biggest health cut is a $750 million cut to Medi-Cal, contingent on negotiating a waiver from the federal government. The Schwarzenegger Administration wants to revisit rollbacks in eligibility that are now restricted by the federal government in order for California to accept billions in federal stimulus dollars. Those rollbacks were not explicitly specified in the Governor's summary, but have included in the past:

* the denial of Medi-Cal coverage to hundreds of thousands low-income parents under the poverty level (a range from around $13-$18,000/year for a family of three); and.

* the imposition of quarterly status reports on children, with the savings coming from over 250,000 children dropping coverage as a result.

Did'nt obama impose the tobacco tax for SCHIP for children?

* Since these previous proposals do not add up to $750 million in savings, even after full implementation over several years, other cuts and savings would have to be found as well to meet this goal.

* Other specific health cuts include:

* $132.2 million in reduced health benefits to those in CALPERS;

* $125 million in reducing health services for legal immigrants;

Legal immigrants need free healthcare?

* $36.8 million by cutting rates for family planning services;

Planned parenthood??? Abortion?

* $20 million by cutting payments to private hospitals, a 10% cut in general support; and

* $2.7 million by eliminating application assisters that help children & families enroll in coverage

In Medi-Cal, there is also a new prescription drug purchasing effort to save $75 million, and a new anti-fraud initiative targeted at adult day health centers, pharmacy, doctors, durable medical equipment, and transportation, with the goal of saving $47.9 million.

There are other human services cuts as well, to IHSS home care, SSI/SSP for seniors, CALWORKS for low-income families, and also includes the elimination of CAPI and CFAP for legal immigrants.

CALIFORNIA FOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM (CFAP). INFORMATION. CASH ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR IMMIGRANTS (CAPI)

* If Proposition 1C fails, the projected budget deficit grows by $5 billion. If Proposition 1D & 1E fail, the deficit grows by nearly $1 billion. In those circumstances, the Governor's "contingency budget" include:

* $54.4 million in eliminating Healthy Families coverage for over 225,000 children (who are betweeen 2005-250% of the federal poverty level, or between $36,000-$45,000 for a family of three)

* $60 million out of Proposition 99 funded-programs, redirecting money from county health funds, clinics, the Breast Cancar Early Detection, Asthma, rural health, the Access for Infants and Mothers program which provides prenatal care, and the Major Risk Medical Insurance Program, which provides coverage for those denied for "pre-existing conditions."

Mr Mip is a good program but the insured pay a hefty price for it.

* $25.5 million in reducing adult day health care benefits to three days a week;

huh???

* $24.6 million to local health jurisdictions of HIV education and prevention;

Don't have casual sex or pay the price. I just saved them 24.6 million.

* $10 million cut in maternal, child and adolescent health grants;

huh?

* $8.8 million through a 10% rate reduction for certain substance abuse treatment services in Medi-Cal;

Don't do drugs or pay the price. I just saved them 8.8 million.

* $2.9 million in suspending a comprehensive school-based prevention program on dental disease.

THE POLITICS OF THE PROPOSITIONS: The Governor used his press announcement to argue for the package of proposition on the May 19th ballot next week. His document says the budget depends on the passage of 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, and 1E, even though Propositions 1A and 1B do not have an impact on this or next year's budget. Proposition 1C, which would provide a cash advance from lottery proceeds, is the ballot measure that would make the major difference.

Some health advocates, including Health Access California, argue that Prop 1A, even though it would bring in revenues in 2011-12, includes a constitutional spending cap that would make it harder to ever restore these cuts, even when the economy improves and the state has more revenue.

Regardless of what happens with the fate of the propositions, there is an ugly budget with awful choices on cuts and/or taxes this year, and there continues to be a long-term mismatch between the revenues the state brings in, and the education, health and other vital services that Californians expect and deserve.

The work of consumer and health advocates is to continue to demonstrate the impact of these proposed cuts, not just to directly impacted Californians who will lose their coverage or care, but to the health system and economy as a whole, and all Californians as a result.

We were to accept 16 billion in tax increases for welfare to thrive? All of these are not fair but where is the responsibility on some of these programs that are handed out forever and ever to anyone who signs up?

52 posted on 05/15/2009 9:12:47 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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We can take back California that is democratically controlled by using one of the biggest problems facing us now that dems have created. Not only has water been cut off tow farmers but soon we will be facing shortages. Because of obama and the dems.

Farm revenue and food will be in short supply if not already.

http://aquafornia.com/archives/8516


53 posted on 05/15/2009 9:18:55 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Wolfstar
One of the stupidest things conservatives in this state ever did was get behind that recall effort.

As I recall, you saw through it from the very beginning.
Wise from the git go.

54 posted on 05/16/2009 12:37:06 AM PDT by b9 ("Without gratitude, there is no happiness." ~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: Gritty

Where’s Howard Jarvis when you need him? (Oh, that’s right he passed away....)

hh


55 posted on 05/16/2009 5:36:37 AM PDT by hoosier hick ((I'm back to..) Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo. (Barry Goldwater))
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To: OafOfOffice

The really amazing thing to me is that ALL governments at ALL levels are spending beyond their means, and no one is calling for significant cuts. The recession is a real handy excuse for overspending....

hh


56 posted on 05/16/2009 5:43:52 AM PDT by hoosier hick ((I'm back to..) Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo. (Barry Goldwater))
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To: Ron C.
I wonder how many people realize that there already exists an amendment to the California Constitution which limits state spending increases to inflation plus population growth — and it's been on the books since 1979!

The big government socialists have IGNORED that law for THIRTY YEARS!

I'd bet some quick math would show a current SURPLUS of $50B if this law had been followed ONLY SINCE SCHWARTZENKENNEDY HAD BEEN ELECTED.

We are being herded and sheared like fat sheep.

57 posted on 05/16/2009 7:44:35 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: b9
As I recall, you saw through it from the very beginning.

Bad memory, there, b9. I was opposed to the recall from the very beginning. It was terminally stupid. I argued then, and still argue, that all it did was give the Democrat legislature Arnold's thin pseudo-Republican skirts to hide behind.

Conservatives thought they could pull an end-run around the reelection of Davis. How did that work out, hmmmm? But conservatives never, ever take ownership of their mistakes. They always shift blame to someone else. If that fails, they just pretend they never did it in the first place.

BTW, if it's still possible to search for threads that far back, by all means go ahead and search for my posts about the recall. I have been 100% consistent in my opinions about it from day one. Time and events have proven me right.

58 posted on 05/16/2009 9:08:03 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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To: Ron C.
It will only be interesting IF voters turn out in great numbers and send the message loud and clear. The amount the propositions lose by will be key.

The libs will just find an activist judge to overturn the will of the people. As they alwasy do when conservative props pass overwhelmingly.
59 posted on 05/16/2009 9:23:18 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: ponygirl
Certain areas of California are turning into another New Orleans... any taxpayers worth their salt are either fleeing or keeping their money out of state and the place gets bluer and bluer.

There's numerous articles on the number of people leaving the state every year exceeds those moving in - but the articles fail to state that it's the high earners that are leaving and illegals that are moving in. Almost everyone my husband works with is planning on leaving when they retire. Us included.
60 posted on 05/16/2009 9:26:31 AM PDT by CottonBall
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