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To: Rummyfan; Lando Lincoln; neverdem; SJackson; dennisw; NonValueAdded; Alouette; .cnI redruM; ...
Mark Steyn:

... But forget the money, the deficit, the debt, the big numbers with the 12 zeroes on the end of them. So-called fiscal conservatives often miss the point. The problem isn't the cost. These programs would still be wrong even if Bill Gates wrote a check to cover them each month. They're wrong because they deform the relationship between the citizen and the state. Even if there were no financial consequences, the moral and even spiritual consequences would still be fatal. That's the stage where Europe is ...

... The story of the Western world since 1945 is that, invited to choose between freedom and government "security," large numbers of people vote to dump freedom every time — the freedom to make your own decisions about health care, education, property rights, and a ton of other stuff. It's ridiculous for grown men and women to say: I want to be able to choose from hundreds of cereals at the supermarket, thousands of movies from Netflix, millions of songs to play on my iPod — but I want the government to choose for me when it comes to my health care. A nation that demands the government take care of all the grown-up stuff is a nation turning into the world's wrinkliest adolescent, free only to choose its record collection.

And don't be too sure you'll get to choose your record collection in the end. That's Stage Three: When the populace has agreed to become wards of the state, it's a mere difference of degree to start regulating their thoughts. ...

... "Give people plenty and security, and they will fall into spiritual torpor," wrote Charles Murray in In Our Hands. "When life becomes an extended picnic, with nothing of importance to do, ideas of greatness become an irritant. Such is the nature of the Europe syndrome."

The key word here is "give." When the state "gives" you plenty — when it takes care of your health, takes cares of your kids, takes care of your elderly parents, takes care of every primary responsibility of adulthood — it's not surprising that the citizenry cease to function as adults: Life becomes a kind of extended adolescence — literally so for those Germans who've mastered the knack of staying in education till they're 34 and taking early retirement at 42. ...

Genteel decline can be very agreeable — initially: You still have terrific restaurants, beautiful buildings, a great opera house. And once the pressure's off it's nice to linger at the sidewalk table, have a second café au lait and a pain au chocolat, and watch the world go by. At the Munich Security Conference in February, President Sarkozy demanded of his fellow Continentals, "Does Europe want peace, or do we want to be left in peace?" To pose the question is to answer it. Alas, it only works for a generation or two. And it's hard to come up with a wake-up call for a society as dedicated as latterday Europe to the belief that life is about sleeping in.

... Conservatives often talk about "small government," which, in a sense, is framing the issue in leftist terms: they're for big government. But small government gives you big freedoms — and big government leaves you with very little freedom. The bailout and the stimulus and the budget and the trillion-dollar deficits are not merely massive transfers from the most dynamic and productive sector to the least dynamic and productive. When governments annex a huge chunk of the economy, they also annex a huge chunk of individual liberty. You fundamentally change the relationship between the citizen and the state into something closer to that of junkie and pusher — and you make it very difficult ever to change back. Americans face a choice: They can rediscover the animating principles of the American idea — of limited government, a self-reliant citizenry, and the opportunities to exploit your talents to the fullest — or they can join most of the rest of the Western world in terminal decline. To rekindle the spark of liberty once it dies is very difficult. The inertia, the ennui, the fatalism is more pathetic than the demographic decline and fiscal profligacy of the social democratic state, because it's subtler and less tangible. But once in a while it swims into very sharp focus. Here is the writer Oscar van den Boogaard from an interview with the Belgian paper De Standaard. Mr. van den Boogaard, a Dutch gay "humanist" (which is pretty much the trifecta of Eurocool), was reflecting on the accelerating Islamification of the Continent and concluding that the jig was up for the Europe he loved. "I am not a warrior, but who is?" he shrugged. "I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it." In the famous Kubler-Ross five stages of grief, Mr. van den Boogard is past denial, anger, bargaining and depression, and has arrived at a kind of acceptance.

"I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it." Sorry, doesn't work — not for long. Back in New Hampshire, General Stark knew that. Mr. van den Boogard's words are an epitaph for Europe. Whereas New Hampshire's motto — "Live free or die!" — is still the greatest rallying cry for this state or any other. About a year ago, there was a picture in the papers of Iranian students demonstrating in Tehran and waving placards. And what they'd written on those placards was: "Live free or die!" They understand the power of those words; so should we


Nailed It!
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32 posted on 05/19/2009 7:11:01 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik; TigerLikesRooster; sickoflibs; NVDave; abb; Uncledave; Liz
The problem isn't the cost. These programs would still be wrong even if Bill Gates wrote a check to cover them each month. They're wrong because they deform the relationship between the citizen and the state. Even if there were no financial consequences, the moral and even spiritual consequences would still be fatal.

PING!

33 posted on 05/19/2009 7:17:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (If printing money was the answer, why don't Haitians "print" their way out of poverty?)
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Pinging the Mark Steyn Ping List.

Welcome to the newest members of this ever expanding  list.



I must apologize for my tardiness in pinging the list.  I have been consumed by deadlines trying to get several projects completed and I have, I am sad to say, zero time for the internet.

I have reached a point where things have settled down a little and I will try to be more promt in the future to ensure you get your dose of Steyn.!

Previous articles from Steyn can be found here;

Mark Steyn: Fun with Dick and Nancy ( Cheney vs. Pelosi )

Pelosi's tortured press performance ... Mark Steyn

Live Free or Die ... Mark Steyn

Superheroes are starting to bug me

STEYN: Is conservatism over?

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Cheers,

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36 posted on 05/19/2009 8:27:48 AM PDT by knews_hound (I for one welcome our new Insect overlords!)
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To: Tolik
Many thanks for the ping. That was absolutely outstanding. Bookmarked.

When President Bush talked about promoting democracy in the Middle East, there was a phrase he liked to use: "Freedom is the desire of every human heart." Really? It's unclear whether that's really the case in Gaza and the Pakistani tribal lands. But it's absolutely certain that it's not the case in Berlin and Paris, Stockholm and London, New Orleans and Buffalo.

Freedom or plenty? It is no accident that Steyn quoted Machiavelli on the issue because old Nick saw this six centuries before we do. His side was the Republic of Florence, where the troops were volunteers; the other side was the Medici, with Spanish mercenaries and enough wealth to promise the community permanent peace and prosperity...if only they'd kiss the ring. Machiavelli's side lost.

So is freedom worth fighting, worth dying for? Of course it is. But when it's taken away a little at a time, can we as easily say that only that little bit of freedom is worth dying for? That's how it's done, an incremental squeezing that takes away first the will, and then the ability to recover that which is lost. And so from initial outrage at the ridiculous notion that one's income might be taxed at all, much less at the confiscatory rate of 10%, we are left with a sniveling gratitude when the State deigns to lower it to three times that...for now. That's how it works.

The real problem is that we've plotted this curve before and it isn't smooth. A State big enough to offer this sort of indolence to its citizens eventually falls just as Florence and Milan and Mantua did, and from indolence the citizens proceed to penury, either as subjects of a still larger and more aggressive state or as inhabitants of a wasteland. At least in the latter case the survivors get to start over. There does not seem to be a historical precedent for an incremental increase in human freedom. It's a jagged curve and it's covered in blood.

We are fortunate enough to live in a Golden Age of plenty and we're doing our best to end it and ensure that it never happens again, all this under the supremely ironic rubric of "sustainability." Somewhere old Nick is laughing at us.

42 posted on 05/19/2009 9:46:02 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tolik

Masterful it was!


57 posted on 05/19/2009 1:39:14 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Tyranny is always whimsical." Mark Steyn 3/9/2009)
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To: Tolik; knews_hound

Tip-top Steyn. A big bttt and a big thanks to both of you for the pings.


59 posted on 05/19/2009 5:44:04 PM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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