[calcowgirl]

5,000 is only about 1% of the total employees (see numbers I just posted).

Let’s start with 30,000 (or more) now and go from there.

[mad_as_he$$]

I guarantee you a good manager could cut 10% of anything out of any budget. 50,000 should be the starting place. Notice how all the retailers are suddenly profitable on lees sales? It is because they have cut out the deadwood and now can make money. It isn't that hard.