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COURT VEILS Michigan Supreme Court to decide Muslim veil issue
Kxmb.com ^ | May 12, 2009

Posted on 05/14/2009 7:45:39 AM PDT by restornu

Edited on 05/14/2009 7:47:16 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

LANSING, Mich. (AP) Michigan

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: burqua; crushislam; islam; islamicimperialism; islamiclaw; lifeamongthekufir; michigan; muslims; rights
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1 posted on 05/14/2009 7:45:39 AM PDT by restornu
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To: grellis

Ping


2 posted on 05/14/2009 7:46:11 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

Yet the judge can jail you for contempt if you refuse to remove a ball cap...

stellar...


3 posted on 05/14/2009 7:48:18 AM PDT by Crim
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To: restornu
One more terrorist attack in America and “veils” will be the least of their problems...

Semper Fi,
Kelly

4 posted on 05/14/2009 7:49:02 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: restornu

as I watched some headscarfed, face-covered woman attempt to drive a car the other day and another push a stroller, I wondered what the bugger are they even doing in this country? There are 57 nations which are members of the islamic league or whatever they call it which gladly enforce this bullshit.


5 posted on 05/14/2009 7:49:09 AM PDT by fortunate sun (Undermine Obama with every thought, word and deed.)
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To: restornu
Stand in front of me and testify / defend yourself.

If you can't look me in the eye and speak for yourself..........tuff, you are done.

6 posted on 05/14/2009 7:50:30 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: fortunate sun
I wondered what the bugger are they even doing in this country?

Creeping sharia.

7 posted on 05/14/2009 7:53:08 AM PDT by Joiseydude (Kate Smith - God Bless America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCavKL2zdjM GREAT visual interpretatio)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
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If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

Thanks for posting this, restornu.

8 posted on 05/14/2009 7:55:28 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: restornu

...and I am completely unsurprised by the comments that have been posted so far. Unsurprised and disgusted. In fact, I’m too disgusted to comment right now. I’m not in the mood for a suspension.


9 posted on 05/14/2009 8:01:22 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Crim

A Nun in a conservative order may keep her “headgear” on in court but her face must be shown. I think that will be the standard that will be applied.


10 posted on 05/14/2009 8:09:39 AM PDT by WellyP
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Poor widdle thing got her panties in a bunch because 200 years of American jurisprudence wasn't tossed out the window to accomodate someone attempting to conceal their identity while under Oath in a Court of Law.....

L

11 posted on 05/14/2009 8:12:30 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: restornu

What do the courts say about your right to face your accuser in court?


12 posted on 05/14/2009 8:13:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: fortunate sun

In the muslim theocratic nations, she would not even be permitted to drive.

Take your driver’s course wearing a mask and you will be failed for having obstructed viewing area.


13 posted on 05/14/2009 8:14:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: Lurker
If that's how you choose to look at it. I don't. This is wrong, in the same way it would be wrong for a judge to order me to remove a crucifix from my neck, were I presenting myself in court as a compelled witness. I guess I'm just one of those cry-babies who believes I have a freedom to practice my religion, not hide it away because an activist judge believes I should. Yes, activist. Jurisprudence be damned, if that's even the case.

If you don't want to believe that an attack on one religion in this country is an attack on all, Amen. Have it your way. Just don't piss and moan the next time some flap about the Ten Commandments being posted in a courthouse makes the news...don't kvetch when an atheist sues the courts because a witness was asked to swear an oath on a bible.

14 posted on 05/14/2009 8:27:56 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: grellis
This is wrong, in the same way it would be wrong for a judge to order me to remove a crucifix from my neck, were I presenting myself in court as a compelled witness.

Bzzzzzzzt!!!! Wrong answer, but thanks for playing. A crucifix does not conceal your identity or deny Jurors the ability to judge your facial expressions in response to questioning.

I guess I'm just one of those cry-babies who believes I have a freedom to practice my religion,

There's not a single word in the koran which demands that women conceal their faces. Not one.

If you don't want to believe that an attack on one religion in this country is an attack on all,

See above. You're ignorant about what is really required by that hateful ideology masquerading as a religion known as 'islam'.

You're arguing from a position of ignorance. That's never very pretty to watch.

L

15 posted on 05/14/2009 8:31:45 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: a fool in paradise
She didn't refuse to appear in court. She refused to set aside how she practices her faith.
16 posted on 05/14/2009 8:32:26 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: grellis
This is not a religious or religious freedom issue. Having your face observable while testifying goes directly to credibility and is therefore part of the proceedings. One could wear any religious medal on a chain without an issue. Same would go with a nun whose order requires the headpiece.

Perhaps we could go with the Sharia approach in such cases which weights a woman's testimony as less than that of a man's.

17 posted on 05/14/2009 8:38:07 AM PDT by Starwolf
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To: grellis

Wear a mask or head wrap when you go to testify against a violent street gang and see if the judge permits you to shield your ID for personal safety.

There are muslim men who find it personally insulting (”for religious reasons”) for a woman to look them in the eye. Some would say that is sexist. Should he be permitted to express personal outrage if a woman looked him in the eye?

No one is above the law. If justice is to be blind, everyone should appear in court as equals.

I also have a problem with claims that removing the burqua for passport photos, driver’s license photos, and arrest booking photos is “forbidden”. The purpose of a photo is to identify a person. Not a person in a mask.

You appear in court so that the judge, jury, accused, and defendant can all see who is going on record with a statement. Body language is also a factor.

If you want to live in a 14th century trapping, move to a 14th century village. But don’t require that everyone in that village comply with your religious traditions. There exists a God given right to a freedom of religion, no Islam by decree. No prohibitions on converting away from the faith.


18 posted on 05/14/2009 8:38:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: restornu

Tell me how many dedicated leftists there are on the court. I’ll tell you the decision.


19 posted on 05/14/2009 8:40:35 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: restornu

Michigan has an “anti mask” law. (Originally enacted to thwart the KKK). So how is it even legal for her to go out in public with her face covered?


20 posted on 05/14/2009 8:43:57 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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