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Still the Biggest Missing Story in Politics
American Thinker ^ | May 14, 2009 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 05/14/2009 12:13:02 AM PDT by neverdem

In August of last year I wrote an article, "The Biggest Missing Story in Politics," which reviewed the single most important datum in the last thirteen Battleground Polls over a period stretching from early 2002 to late 2008.  The critical fact, completely ignored by almost everyone, was that in answering Question D3, which asked the respondent what he considered his ideology to be, sixty percent of the American people described themselves as "conservative" or "very conservative." 

In every single Battleground Poll, conservatives vastly outnumbered not only liberals, but moderates and undecided respondents combined.  The Battleground Poll itself is a bipartisan poll, combining the resources of the Tarrance Group and Lake Research Partners.  Unlike many polls driven by newspapers, networks, or other agenda driven organizations, this poll is one of the few which has no ideological agenda or partisan bias. 


The last Battleground Poll, which came out after my article, no longer revealed the answer to Question D3.  Did that mean that America, suddenly, stopped being an overwhelmingly conservative nation and had been seduced by Obama into being moderate or Leftist?  No.  The Tarrance Group did reveal the ideological breakdown of Americans, although in a different way than in the thirteen prior Battleground Polls. 

Those earlier polls had asked people to describe themselves as "very conservative," "somewhat conservative," "moderate," "don't know," "somewhat liberal," or "very liberal."  Those who chose "very conservative" or "somewhat conservative" were as low in some of the thirteen polls as 58% of the nation and as high in other polls as 63% of the nation, and the average of the polls was a rock solid 60%, year in and year out.

The Tarrance Group chose to look at ideology differently in its post-election poll.  Respondents were asked to refine their definition of "conservative."  So instead of being asked about the intensity of their ideology (i.e. "very conservative" versus "somewhat conservative"), the Battleground Poll changed the question. 

Two questions replace the old Question D3.  Now Americans were asked on social issues if they were "very conservative," "somewhat conservative," "moderate," "somewhat liberal" or "very liberal" as well as on fiscal issues if they were  "very conservative," "somewhat conservative," "moderate," "somewhat liberal," or "very liberal."  The Tarrance Group also provided data on the answers to this question within political parties.

The responses illuminated some aspects of the prior polls, but the over all result was the same:  Americans, overwhelmingly, are conservative.  There were some differences between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives.  Twenty-six percent of Americans call themselves "very conservative" on fiscal issues and forty-three percent consider themselves "somewhat conservative" on fiscal issues.  One percent of America is moderate on fiscal issues -- that vital "center" of American politics! -- and three percent "don't know."  Twenty-two percent of Americans are "somewhat liberal" on fiscal issues, and a piddling five percent of Americans are "very liberal" on fiscal issues.   When the mushy "moderate" and "don't know" respondents are excluded, fiscal conservatives outnumber fiscal liberals by seventy-four percent to twenty-six percent. 

Social conservatives are the clear majority of America too, although the numbers are not quite as overwhelming.  Thirty-four percent of America, more than one person in three, is "very conservative" on social issues and nineteen percent are "somewhat conservative" on social issues.  One percent is moderate on social issues - again, that vital "center" of American politics! - and seven percent "don't know."  Twenty percent are "somewhat liberal" on social issues and nineteen percent are "very liberal" on social issues.  When the mushy "don't know" and moderates are taken out, social conservatives outnumber social liberals fifty-nine percent to forty-one percent.

Tarrance also helps explain what Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh are so popular with Republicans.  Seventy-four percent of Republicans are both social and fiscal conservatives.  Ninety-one percent of Republicans are fiscal conservative.  And seventy-seven percent of Republicans are social conservatives.  Any effort to change the Republican brand ought to begin with that dramatic fact.

What about Obama's own political party, the Democrats?  Only forty-two percent of Democrats are both social liberals and fiscal liberals.  Perhaps more amazing, twenty-three percent of Democrats, almost one in four, describe themselves as both  social conservative and fiscal conservative.  Forty-seven percent of Democrats describe themselves as fiscal conservatives, and thirty-four percent of Democrats describe themselves as social conservatives.  Fifty-eight percent of Democrats consider themselves either a fiscal conservative or a social conservative or both. 

These results, more detailed and more informative than past responses to Question D3 in previous Battleground Polls, do not alter the profoundly conservative character of the American electorate at all.  A social conservative, who was perceived as a social conservative running against a social liberal, would win an easy majority of the American people in any election.  A fiscal conservative, who was perceived as a fiscal conservative running against a fiscal liberal, would win a landslide greater than any in the history of these two political parties.  A candidate perceive as both a social conservative and a fiscal conservative would win one quarter of the Democrat Party vote, if the Democrat was perceived as a liberal, and sweep the nation easily.

In fact, if a Democrat ran for his party's nomination as a conservative - and if the other candidates for the nomination were perceived as liberals - he ought to be able to compete for the fifty-eight percent of Democrats who were social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, or both.   The biggest story in American politics has been answered again, with the data even more detailed and refined.  The answer is the same - just the same - America is still, in every way and from every vantage, a conservative nation.   

Bruce Walker is the author of two books:  Sinisterism: Secular Religion of the Lie, and his recently published book, The Swastika against the Cross: The Nazi War on Christianity.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; conservatives; liberals; moderates
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1 posted on 05/14/2009 12:13:03 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Bump for later.


2 posted on 05/14/2009 12:17:07 AM PDT by America_Right (The best thing about the Obama Presidency: McCain isn't the President!)
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To: neverdem
Cogito, ergo conservatus...(I think, therefore I am conservative.)

Lousy Latin...but you get the point.

Closer than I would have guessed:
http://www.babeled.com/2008/10/23/word-power-conservative/
3 posted on 05/14/2009 1:11:08 AM PDT by Tainan (Where's my FOF Indicator?)
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To: Tainan; neverdem

Given the foregoing analysis — which we have no reason to disbelieve — the obvious question is “How did Obama win against such decisive odds?”


4 posted on 05/14/2009 1:28:20 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
“How did Obama win against such decisive odds?”

In order for a conservative to win, you have to run a conservative candidate. Since 1988, the hiararchy of the Republican party has chosen Bush I, Dole, Bush II and McCain. It has chosen to back people like Snowe, Specter, Collins, Bloomberg and Schwarzenegger.
In short, Republican does not equal Conservative.

5 posted on 05/14/2009 1:53:12 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: neverdem

The fact is that while people profess to being conservative they don’t live that life at all for the most part.

They vote for people like themselves, liars and frauds.


6 posted on 05/14/2009 1:54:54 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Given the foregoing analysis — which we have no reason to disbelieve — the obvious question is “How did Obama win against such decisive odds?”

They presented a false front that Obama was a centrist in the general election. The MSM colluded in this. The rats took back Congress using pro Second Amendment and pro life candidates starting in 2006. Add to that white guilt, despite their ignorance of whom they bought slaves from centuries ago. Those slave traders were mostly people of color.

7 posted on 05/14/2009 2:01:01 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Neverdem hits a homerun re False Front.
The Left always presents a false front, the US is still predominatedly disposed toward the Conservative side but the Left has absolutely no principle that stands in the way of their desire for power. I mean just think that many voters viewed Obama as a centrist....this was part of the plan along with illegal funding and Acorn voter registration fraud.


8 posted on 05/14/2009 2:37:34 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: neverdem

If 60% are conservative, we need to ask them how it is that they think President Ponzi, the most liberal senator, is such a good choice for them.


9 posted on 05/14/2009 3:33:03 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
What this signals to me is the power of the fourth estate in influencing public opinion. If they had taken the time to research and objectively report on the anointed ones background he would have never became president. As it was the average person who gets their news from the MSM didn't have a clue as to his background or intentions.
10 posted on 05/14/2009 4:00:35 AM PDT by RU88
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To: Carley
"The fact is that while people profess to being conservative they don’t live that life at all for the most part. They vote for people like themselves, liars and frauds."

Not at all. This shows up in those who have, in essence, "dropped out" of the political process, and don't vote at all, because most candidates don't reflect their wishes. The secret of Reagan's success is that he managed to motivate that "disaffected" bloc. The percentage of Americans who actually take the time to vote is (as I recall), just over 50% of the total voting age population.

11 posted on 05/14/2009 5:04:33 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: RU88
I agree with you. Obama was well marketed and funded, and said whatitching ears wanted to hear. His communist background and 'blank page' credentials were hidden by a MSM that was SO excited about his candidacy, that they refused to report objectively. I also wonder how many conservatives sat out the election. I still scratch my head about how McCain made it to the top of the pile of Republican candidates, although he too, had been the MSM darling on the 'right', which further bolsters your point.
12 posted on 05/14/2009 5:08:22 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: RU88
What this signals to me is the power of the fourth estate in influencing public opinion.

It was not just the media. There was, and is, a semi-coordinated effort by leftist groups worldwide to assert their power and influence.

These groups act like terror cells, working together without knowing the full-extent of their coordination.

Conservatives are up against more than just the media.

13 posted on 05/14/2009 5:26:53 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
One word describes how the left has managed to take over the country.

FRAUD!

14 posted on 05/14/2009 5:43:27 AM PDT by lucyblue
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To: Wonder Warthog
This shows up in those who have, in essence, "dropped out" of the political process, and don't vote at all, because most candidates don't reflect their wishes. The secret of Reagan's success is that he managed to motivate that "disaffected" bloc.

IMO, this is key.

15 posted on 05/14/2009 5:52:37 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: neverdem

The polling obviously doesn’t take into account the fact that if a person identifies himself/herself as a dem, regardless of their conservative or liberal “leanings”, they will most likely blindly “pull the lever for the dem” who is running.


16 posted on 05/14/2009 6:04:07 AM PDT by Flpoop (play it where it lies)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
The critical fact, completely ignored by almost everyone, was that in answering Question D3, which asked the respondent what he considered his ideology to be, sixty percent of the American people described themselves as "conservative" or "very conservative." In every single Battleground Poll, conservatives vastly outnumbered not only liberals, but moderates and undecided respondents combined.
Thanks neverdem. It's encouraging of course, but lots of people consider themselves conservative overall, but have one or two views that are not conservative (or at least, such that other self-assessed conservatives don't see as conservative). That's why conservativism gets its ass handed to it in election after election.
17 posted on 05/14/2009 2:58:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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