Posted on 05/13/2009 7:19:28 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
Same way here, put quite a few rounds through the XM16, utilized most versions through the M-4 with few problems... although out of all the weapons I've operated with, the M-14 would be the "One", and with all that wood (or heavy high impact plastics), the "buttstroke" is highly effective... ;-)
Ouch!
No. The 30-06 and the .308 are esentially the same round. Check the ballistics on both cartridges.
Index Number | Cartridge Type | (grs.) | Bullet Style | Primer No. | Coefficient | |||
PG30064 | Remington® Premier Green® | 180 | Lapua Naturalis | 9 1/2 | 0.302 | |||
PRC3006C | Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 | Core-Lokt® Ultra Bonded | 9 1/2 | 0.402 | |||
PRC308WC | Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 | Core-Lokt® Ultra Bonded | 9 1/2 | 0.402 | |||
PG308W3 | Remington® Premier Green® | 180 | Lapua Naturalis | 9 1/2 M | 0.302 | |||
R30069 | Remington® Express® | 55 | Pointed Soft Point | 9 1/2 | 0.197 | |||
Velocity (ft/sec) | ||||||||
Cartridge Type | Bullet | Muzzle | 100 | 200 | 300 | 400 | 500 | |
Remington® Premier Green® | 180 LP | 2665 | 2337 | 2108 | 1856 | 1626 | 1422 | |
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 CLUB | 2700 | 2480 | 2270 | 2070 | 1882 | 1704 | |
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 CLUB | 2620 | 2404 | 2198 | 2002 | 1818 | 1644 | |
Remington® Premier Green® | 180 LP | 2620 | 2335 | 2068 | 1820 | 1594 | 1394 | |
Remington® Express® | 55 PSP | 4080 | 3484 | 2964 | 2499 | 2080 | 1706 | |
Energy (ft-lbs) | ||||||||
Cartridge Type | Bullet | Muzzle | 100 | 200 | 300 | 400 | 500 | |
Remington® Premier Green® | 180 LP | 2838 | 2258 | 1775 | 1377 | 1057 | 808 | |
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 CLUB | 2913 | 2457 | 2059 | 1713 | 1415 | 1161 | |
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 CLUB | 2743 | 2309 | 1930 | 1601 | 1320 | 1080 | |
Remington® Premier Green® | 180 LP | 2743 | 2179 | 1709 | 1324 | 1015 | 777 | |
Remington® Express® | 55 PSP | 2033 | 1482 | 1073 | 763 | 528 | 355 | |
Short-Range Trajectory | ||||||||
Cartridge Type | Bullet | 50 | 100 | 150 | 200 | 250 | 300 | |
Remington® Premier Green® | 180 LP | 1.3 | 1.4 | zero | -3.2 | -8.3 | -15.6 | |
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 CLUB | 0.0 | zero | -1.3 | -4.2 | -8.7 | -15.1 | |
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 CLUB | 0.0 | zero | -1.4 | -4.5 | -9.4 | -16.3 | |
Remington® Premier Green® | 180 LP | 1.4 | 1.5 | zero | -3.3 | -8.6 | -16.2 | |
Remington® Express® | 55 PSP | 0.0 | 0.2 | zero | -1.0 | -3.0 | -6.2 | |
Long-Range Trajectory | ||||||||
Cartridge Type | Bullet | 100 | 150 | 200 | 250 | 300 | 400 | 500 |
Remington® Premier Green® | 180 LP | 3 | 2.4 | zero | -4.3 | -10.9 | -31.9 | -66.2 |
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 CLUB | 2.1 | 1.8 | zero | -3.5 | -8.9 | -25.8 | -52.7 |
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra | 180 CLUB | 2.3 | 2.0 | zero | -3.8 | -9.5 | -26.4 | -56.4 |
Remington® Premier Green® | 180 LP | 3.1 | 2.5 | zero | -4.5 | -11.3 | -33.2 | -68.8 |
Remington® Express® | 55 PSP | 1.4 | 1.8 | 1.4 | zero | -2.6 | -12.2 | -30.0 |
I was really hoping the HK416 & HK417 would get the gig.
oh well.
My Eagle Arms AR carbine weighs 6.8 pounds (empty), almost a full pound lighter than the L, and my IMBEL/DSA FAL carbine comes in at 9.0 pounds (empty), only about a half pound heavier than the H. Funny that they couldn't make 'em lighter...
I believe he was referring to the original military loadings (for comparable bullet weights):
.30-06, 150gr FMJ, Ball M2, 2740 fps MV
7.62x51 NATO, 150gr FMJ-BT, Ball M80, 2750 fps MV
Only 10 fps difference - according to my old copy of 'Cartridges of the World,' at least...
;>)
Yea, but you have to clean out the crud in the receiver. Buy the wrong ammo and you have a real mess.
A little "crud in the receiver" might slow down an AR, but doesn't much bother an FAL. "Ol' Dirty" digested at least 15,000 rounds of 7.62 NATO without being cleaned (and with an occasional toss into the swamp to cool her down ;>), and was still functioning. Here are some sites that have photos of "the crud in the receiver:"
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68486&s=d54143a6b85c9b21b7487dde0fcbcc95
http://ronocracy.blogspot.com/2007/02/ol-dirty-texas-legend.html
http://lukesbunker.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html
;>)
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