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Smokers, drinkers to carry tax burden?
politico.com ^ | 5/13/09 | CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN

Posted on 05/13/2009 4:46:37 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The Senate Finance Committee considers the option of taxing vices to pay for health care reform. Photo: Reuters

If you make big bucks — or enjoy alcohol, cigarettes and Coke — the government might hit you up to pay for fixing the nation’s health care system.

On Tuesday, the Senate Finance Committee peeked into vending machines and liquor stores, company payrolls and health savings accounts, looking for a mix of tax increases and spending cuts as a way to pay for a health overhaul — which could cost more than $1.5 trillion over 10 years.

Experts thought the big debate might be public plan vs. no public plan. But that may well pale in comparison to the difficulty of settling on a way to finance health care reform.

“I wish there were a number of painless options,” Robert Greenstein, executive director of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, wrote in his prepared testimony. “There aren’t.”

There appeared to be a bubble of support among the experts for taxing bad behavior, including a $2 tax on a pack of cigarettes and a higher excise tax on alcohol.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alcohol; congress; healthcare; obamataxmiddleclass; obamatruthfiles; pufflist; senate; senatefinance; tobacco
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1 posted on 05/13/2009 4:46:38 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I’m about to throw down the smokes for good. I’ll be giving myself a great tax cut!

Better yet, with the money saved I can buy lots of ammo!

(getting ready to leave to go pick up a Saiga 12g w00t))


2 posted on 05/13/2009 4:50:07 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

yeah...I’m thinking its about time to start looking at an alternative to the current regieme in power at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


3 posted on 05/13/2009 4:50:51 AM PDT by Tainan (Where's my FOF Indicator?)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

2200% increase in the tax on tobacco. That says something.


4 posted on 05/13/2009 4:50:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
I say they tax the bottles of vitamin water the people are dumb enough to fall for anyway.

Leave Cola,cigarettes,alone!

What is next---taxing beer?

5 posted on 05/13/2009 4:51:06 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: KoRn
Saiga 12? Love mine:


6 posted on 05/13/2009 4:51:34 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Saiga 12 shotgun - When the Zombies see it, they'll sh*t bricks.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
People who like the tax-free status of their company health benefits could be asked to ante up

asked???? how about forced by an out of control gubmint.

7 posted on 05/13/2009 4:52:03 AM PDT by Need4Truth (More Freedom, Less Government)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I think I will cry when the time comes to toss my cigarettes, beer, and Diet Coke into the harbor.


8 posted on 05/13/2009 4:52:44 AM PDT by Frogtacos (It all went to hell when we started cooking outside and crapping inside.)
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To: cripplecreek
Cigarette tax ALREADY went up so is this an additional tax?

Generic cigarettes are the new popular brand.

9 posted on 05/13/2009 4:53:09 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Hubby quit smoking a year ago.
I smoke when I drink so I stopped drinking. (i’m not kidding)

I’ve just gotten 500 teabags from Sam’s Club and I’m trying to cut down on Diet Coke.

When they tax Coffee, someone’s going to get hurt.


10 posted on 05/13/2009 4:55:41 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

How about taxing a real killer-fried poultry!


11 posted on 05/13/2009 4:55:59 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: KoRn
I’m about to throw down the smokes for good. I’ll be giving myself a great tax cut!

That's kinda the whole problem with enormous taxes for your own good. They actually work, leaving a dry revenue well.

Here in Michigan Jenni Granholm was astounded by the "breathtaking" drop in tobacco and lottery revenue before the massive tax increase. She's going to keel over dead when she see's what happens with the new taxes.
12 posted on 05/13/2009 4:57:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Frogtacos
After reading this entire article. I think they will end up taxing smokes and beer. They are throwing out taxing cola so that when we are taxed up the butt for beer and cigarettes it is a compromise.

The people that Obama gave a pay raise to on welfare will be ticked when their MD 20/20 goes up. But it is free anyway why should they care?

13 posted on 05/13/2009 4:58:16 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Republicans need to make the case that when government pays for everyone’s health care, it will run everyone’s life.


14 posted on 05/13/2009 4:58:26 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: netmilsmom

Coffee is already ex$pen$ive enough!


15 posted on 05/13/2009 4:59:38 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: cripplecreek

I roll my own and had it to about .91 per pack..then his increase went into effect..it’s now (including tubes) about $2.60 per pack..

I ran out of tobacco a few days ago but have a few packs (of the cheap stuff) left..I’m seriously debating quitting, however, he’s taxing everything else so I’m stuck paying the tax no matter what I do..


16 posted on 05/13/2009 5:00:21 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I was already smoking generic years ago. Then I switched to roll your own loose tobacco. The price on that more than doubled with the new tax to over $50 for a 16 oz bag.


17 posted on 05/13/2009 5:01:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Once again, Zero and his minions can't help themselves. They've never seen a tax they thought was too low. Any one of these alternatives is horrendous. Taxing cigs an additional $2 a pack, on top of the recent increase, is not going to do it because in my opinion you will have reached a tipping point where you're going to find a lot of folks quitting. Taxing health insurance benefits will also cause some to decline coverage at work because of the additional cost involved.

So there you have it. Welcome to the world of Obama.
FUBO

18 posted on 05/13/2009 5:01:45 AM PDT by RU88
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To: cripplecreek

I may start growing tobacco.


19 posted on 05/13/2009 5:01:55 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: RU88
Yeah he is also thinking about taxing the very health insurance that is suppose to be the reason for taxing everything.

ALL of this taxing to pay for illegals health care! This pisses me off beyond pissed.

20 posted on 05/13/2009 5:04:01 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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