[midmoschmo]

For more recent examples:
I got one of the Wolfdales with the bad temp sensor in it.

Doesn’t matter much though - running 4ghz+ without a temp increase anyway so it was a moot point - but still: their fault for crappy quality control. I could probably push this thing up high enough to degrade it because of the volt increase without a temp increase even: but any way you want to slice it the cpu is still “defective” because of that temp sensor. As it is, I wish I had some more accurate readings from the onboard instead of having to use a secondary sensor to read the temp.

I can’t complain about the raw performance however as it rocks socks. My point is just that your right - they have a history of shipping bad cpu’s.

However in fairness - AMD has had its own issues as well - just not anywhere near as many as Intel.

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

"However in fairness - AMD has had its own issues as well - just not anywhere near as many as Intel."

You mention a single Intel processor with a temp sensor issue. Take any AMD CPU and try running it without a fan. < poof > As a general statement, Intel processors are much, much more thermally robust than AMD CPUs, and they have some patents on automatic clock-rate scale-back that have kept them that way.